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Just curious: as transformation leaders, is there sometimes a feeling of "career risk?" If so, in what way?
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Jonathan Fletcher
god yes. DevOps radically changes traditional IT. Big change = big risk but also Big change = big opportunity
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Catapult PR
important question!
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Chris Jackson
I don't feel it so much, either a successful or failed DevOps transformation is a valuable asset for your next potential employer
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Ben Grinnell
Yes, if your not on the same page as your CEO, get some help or a new CEO ;-)
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John Furrier
I would really be interested in see the persona of a "transformational leader" who are these people & is there a list of leaders to talk to.
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margo cronin
.@RealGeneKim yes there is unfortunately a culture of "no one gets fired for choosing [old way]".
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John Furrier
What is the background of the "ideal" transformation leader - or is it industry by industry?
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Carmen DeArdo
I believe an aspect of effective Transformational Leadership is to be able to take on risk and build a firewall for your team and allow them to take credit. This can you at risk from a career development perspective.
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John Furrier
exactly why I asked bc I think it would be great to highlight them and understand what the skill set or make up of these awesome people are
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And what advice would you have to the younger generation interested in starting a career in DevOps?
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John Furrier
believe it or not I get asked all the time this question: "who should i put in charge or promote or give the tasks too"
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Damon Edwards
Failing at running the status quo can be blamed on others. Failing at transformation might stick to you.
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Jonathan Smart
it definitely requires resilience. I've been pleasent
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Carmen DeArdo
Taking risk and allowing others to take credit aids in the transformational success. Servant leadership is a critical aspect of this.
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Jonathan Smart
... Its been great how the organisation has embraced change, given 325 years of history
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Carmen DeArdo
@damonedwards great point Damon.
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Gene Kim
.@furrier If u're interested, I can connect u with Stephen Mayner, who is studying this. He's studying @carmendeardo too!