John Furrier41
Q8: How is scale out architectures different in #datacenter vs #publiccloud?
Andrew Miller
In #publiccloud you presume that scale out is happening. I don't think any public cloud provider isn't using scale out tech under the covers in order to provide elasticity.
jeff dinisco
administrators don't have to interact with scale out components, just need to understand there are a "fleet" of resources that can scale out as needed
Chris Dwan
Not totally clear on the question. Do you mean full-on strawman legacy vs. "modern?"
Kenneth Hui @rubrikInc HQ
Depends on from whose perspective.
Andrew Miller
In the #datacenter you still often have to consciously choose between scale out and non-scale out architectures weighing their pros and cons.
Patrick Rogers
Show me a public cloud that is "scale-out" in terms of logical namespace. Cloud is bag of bolts that still need software to interconnect it.
jeff dinisco
this is the argument for leveraging native cloud services vs. traditional
Chris Harney
I don't know that scale out is any different in the private datacenter than the public cloud, other than some one else is managing the infrastructure
I am John White
In the data center we use it run our business and in public cloud it is their business. Completely different focus on the word "scale"
Stephen Pao
In the spirit of people, process, technology, the technology has to support different people & process.
Chris Dwan
#datacenter systems should be designed with public cloud principles in mind. Otherwise they're boat-anchors.
Andrew Miller
where often non-scale out products can be cheaper on a short term basis as their design cost has long been amortized. Think Networker sold for 99% off at times.
Jeff Hughes
In the #datacenter, it's still your job to scale it. The #publiccloud does it as a business
Stephen Pao
In the @IgneousIO view, we evangelize the need to deliver on-premises infrastructure as-a-Service and have strictly separated our data plane from our management plane.
I am John White
@fdmts 95% of apps running in data centers today don't require infinite scale. Why spend the money to shoot for an impossible dream?
jeff dinisco
achieving the scale and elasticity offered by most public cloud providers in the DC often requires underlying scale-out infrastructure, issue is having hw resources at the ready without over spending
Kenneth Hui @rubrikInc HQ
As a developer today, you can make assumptions that the #publiccloud you are using can scale as you need it. You generally can't make that assumption in the #datacenter.
Stephen Pao
@johna_white Infinite scale isn't necessarily required, but the scaling increments may be very different - particularly as you deal with fault domains.
Andrew Miller
would also say that scaleout in #publiccloud is often designed/tested to scale far further with more automation than in the #datacenter . Just a matter of economics...
Chris Dwan
@johna_white Infinite scalability isn't necessarily the goal of cloud adoption. For me, it's agility and the potential to move / re-use systems.
Kenneth Hui @rubrikInc HQ
Most people don't need the ability to massively scale but ask a a developer if he prefers always having resources available when they need or for as long or short as they need it or if they prefer requesting resources from IT and waiting...