storagesummit

Storage for Oracle DB
Storage experts discuss how to get superior performance from your Oracle database.
   6 years ago
#StorageSummitStorage BackupWikibon and storage experts discuss how to meet backup SLAs and reduce costs.
John Furrier
Question for Oracle folks - what's the goal for the upcoming Storage Summit Tour? What should people know about it. Why should they attend?
Steven Zivanic
Storage Summit will showcase Oracle storage solutions across cloud, flash and deep archives w customers highlighting their deployments #storagesummit
Jeff Frick Never get enough customer stories!
Crowd Captain
the link above is the landing page for the event - hit that for more details;
John Furrier
what are the titles of folks you are looking to reach out to ; we have many cube alumni in those markets. we can ping them possibly; who are you looking for in terms of titles
cmosoares
Meet and talk to Dave Vellante, Chief Research Officer, Wikibon, live and in-person!
Oracle Hardware
Register above for cities near you to meet experts and customers in-person on critical topics like these covered today.
Dave Vellante
I'm going to be in the Bay Area w/o March 3rd - looking forward to meeting customers and discussing storage strategies; particularly interested in how flash is disrupting legacy storage and the future potential do drive new value
Linda Burwell
Storage Solution and Infrastructure decision makers and influencers.
John Furrier what would their titles be?
Dave Vellante
I'll also be discussing some of the mega trends that we cover on #theCUBE - cloud, mobile, social, #bigdata and what they mean to IT organizations
Crowd Captain We have the Cube at #oow every year for past 4 years http://www.siliconangle.tv
John Furrier and I love hosting @theCUBE at #oow the show has turbo charged in relevance since Larry got some cloud religion :-)
Crowd Captain
main targets I can gather for this USA tour would be Oracle DBAs, storage architects, CIOs, Info Systems Mgrs, IT architects, & CFOs - is this the focus?
Kerstin Woods
San Francisco, March 4th and San Jose, March 5th - looks like a great agenda.
Jeff Frick
What are some of the "easy" things that most dbas miss to increase performance?
Dave Vellante
use a "flash-first" architecture and balance out the storage infrastructure
Jeff Frick Is "Flash First" for new apps, new infrastructure only, or is anyone rolling flash back into older apps/infrastructure? Assume better ROI in former case.
brian bulkowski The number of flash storage offerings will EXPLODE in the next 6 months. At @aerospikedb , I have very interesting beta gear from multiple startups. All blow away @oraclehardware in terms of price - density - iops.
Dave Vellante
here's the difference in efficiency b/tween a traditional cached array and a flash-first architecture in an oracle DB environment http://wikibon.org/w/images/4/44/ZFSFigure3a.jpg
Dave Vellante
one key to storage performance has always been the rate at which a cache can de-stage to the spinning disk backend. With a flash-first architecture the persistent flash medium handles this problem much better than an async trickle to b/end disk
Kerstin Woods
One item is storage visibility - DBAs can use tools like #Oracle #ZFS DTrace to see the DB and VM impact to the storage.
cmosoares
One easy one is data compression. Customer experience with Oracle Database Hybrid Columnar Compression shows resulting improvement in query speeds of 3x-8x.
John Furrier
If you're still using legacy storage systems with your Oracle Database, then you’re not getting the most return on your investment. Discussion?
Dave Vellante
It's certainly true for high value apps. But for low value apps legacy storage is just fine until its fully depreciated
Oracle Hardware
General purpose, legacy systems are database-blind. Storage co-engineered with #Oracle Database is faster, easier, smarter. #ZS3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoWIavYp3e0
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Dave Vellante what does that mean "DB blind?"
Kerstin Woods
DB blind = static storage unaware of the incoming data. Good summary here: http://www.dcig.com/2013/09/the-era-of-application-storage-convergence-arrives.html
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Dave Vellante
Comments on some other best practices we see in Oracle - 1/ clearly virtualization is going mainstream; 2/ RMAN for backup is becoming table stakes and 3/ using flash to optimize infr. and minimize DB license and maint. costs
Dave Vellante
#3 is one of the most impactful - not sure it's Larry's fav (it's not) but it's real savings as well over 1/2 of TCO in orcl shops is lic and maint. - so optimizing storage infr. w/ flash is key to efficient operations
Dave Vellante
Another big consideration is the degree to which you want to leverage the storage infr. outside of oracle apps - I'm talking general purpose vs. oracle-specific storage
Dave Vellante
Finally - another big discussion among wikibon practitioners is converged infrastructure and its impact on DBA productivity - where to use CI and where to use standalone storage is a key decision point - CI not for everyone, always
Dave Vellante
Question for the Oracle folks - you're exploiting certain DB functions that you claim your competitors can't - what are those functions?
Steven Zivanic
Hybrid Columnar Compression--compresses data up to 50X; ADO with HCC, auto tiers and auto compresses data at 100% automation; and OISP for dynamic tuning of critical database parameters.
John Furrier
There's several different compression options for Oracle Database, how are they all different? Anyone comment on this?
Oracle Hardware Different compression algorithms are offered to conserve resources and improve performance - depends on the type of data and compression you use - HCC gets up to 50x compression.
Steven Zivanic
Basically only Oracle storage is auto recognized, auto tuned, auto tiered and auto compressed for Oracle Database 12c. When it comes to other storage systems you get a lot of marketing claims of "integration" but essentially auto nothing happens
Dave Vellante
ok so how do you balance the need to make your DB most functional (vs competition) versus optimizing the oracle storage infr. - are you saying it's "all-in" for oracle storage?
John Furrier
What are the key capabilities offered by Oracle Database when it comes to storage?
Bob Bocchino
#hybridcolumnarcompression is enabled on Oracle Engineered Systems
Oracle Hardware And Oracle Storage as well
Jeff Frick Oracle on Oracle? Is this a better strategy?
Steven Zivanic
OISP reduces 65% of critical tuning requirements for using storage with Oracle Database. It auto tunes logibias and record size, saving over a month of database tuning for the average customer.
Crowd Captain
re: Oracle - a truly high price for capabilities that are equivalent or less than basic OSS tooling! ;) via @adron https://twitter.com/adron/status/436190555014307840
adron
@furrier re: Oracle - a truly high price for capabilities that are equivalent or less than basic OSS tooling! ;)
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Quoted By @CrowdCaptain
Steven Zivanic
Automatic Data Optimization w HCC auto tiers and auto compresses Oracle Database data based on heat maps and usage patterns--100% automated environment #storagesummit
John Furrier
@adron what OSS tool are you referencing?
John Furrier @adron says #riak #postgresql #hadoop parts #couch #neo4j #titan and the list goes on... as for their theoretical #paas then...https://twitter.com/adron/status/436191832989396992
adron
@furrier #riak #postgresql #hadoop parts #couch #neo4j #titan and the list goes on... as for their theoretical #paas then...
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Quoted By @furrier
John Furrier
Violin claims they are great for Oracle DBs saw an ad or statement on this (forget where). Please comment?
Steven Zivanic
Violin has no special integration with Oracle Database. No Hybrid Columnar Compression, ADO w HCC or OISP. These are all the results of hundreds of hours of co-engineering between Oracle Database and Oracle Storage.
Steven Zivanic
Violin also lacks data services for its arrays.
cmosoares
Many vendors claim integration, optimization, etc. with Oracle DB, but only Oracle can co-engineer up and down the stack.
John Furrier
What does this statement mean? "Run Oracle Database Like a Ferrari, But Save Like a Prius"
Steven Zivanic
It means you can achieve performance that exceeds that of costly legacy Tier 1 enterprise storage arrays at the cost economics of Tier 3 storage arrays
John Furrier Some people say Hana is the solution for that - you're reply to that
Steven Zivanic
A dual node ZS3 outperforms the IBM DS8000 and HDS VSP at a fraction of their price points--an example of extreme efficiency: http://www.oracle.com/us/solutions/performance-scalability/spc-2-zs3-4-bmark-2005937.html
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Oracle Hardware
Speed without sacrifice. Wikibon: “Oracle #ZS3 #Storage Appliances: Tier-1 Performance at Tier-3 Prices" http://pub.vitrue.com/GHiC
brian bulkowski
At @aerospikedb , our lowest bar is 1M IOPs, 50T capacity, at $2.5/G, per 1U. Anything else is legacy - these are the requirements for real-time big data. Does oracle storage offer that ?
Dave Vellante
oracle's strong suit (today) imo is file-based storage w/the ZFS appliance. i.e. as a backup target and certain analytics apps (e.g. loading data warehouses)
Dave Vellante
what you're talking about is real-time big data apps like ad serving
Steven Zivanic
Oracle ZS3 offers sub microsecond application response times beyond what you can achieve from EMC VNX, Isilon and NetApp--at lower price points:
Steven Zivanic
http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/press/2008737
New Oracle ZFS Storage Sets World Record with Fastest Response Times on SPECsfs2008 NFS Benchmark; 40 Percent Faster than NetApp
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John Furrier
How does trends in Big Data impact storage on Oracle?
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Oracle Hardware
Mark Hurd on #IoT: "businesses need to find new and better ways to keep up with the data explosion without spending themselves into oblivion" http://linkd.in/1eNr4dH
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