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James Maguire
Q8. The future of multicloud? Where will we be in 3-5 years?
Krishnaprasath "KP" Hari
A8: Multicloud will be the future of enterprise cloud computing, and we will continue to see double-digit growth in consumption.
digitalmarks
A8: The future of multi-cloud is one where more powerful abstractions (e.g. serverless) allow for more sophisticated strategies. As we’ve seen with other tech paradigms the increased sophistication will make it easier for some and more challenging for others.
Marc Linster
A8 Cloud vendor independence is key - nobody wants to repeat the commercial software mistakes of the past. Open source software is the answer - it runs on all clouds, and provides vendor and platform independence #eweekchat
Dan Griffith
A8: Edge compute will get as much mindshare as cloud native in the core
James Maguire
@dangit_hub Will edge overtake cloud, or merge with it?
Marc Linster
@dangit_hub Do you see the need to be on multiple clouds to get geo coverage?
Krishnaprasath "KP" Hari
It will merge and form one ubiquitous cloud.
Dan Griffith
A8: As a result, multicloud as a term will encompass all compute as a service scenarios
Marc Linster
Important to see Cloud == Compute as Service, as opposed to Cloud == Data Center in the Cloud
Krishnaprasath "KP" Hari
@MarcLinster Yes. To serve consumers and address local regulation and compliance needs across various geographies.

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Dan Griffith
My own opinion, edge native will be its own domain as a subdomain of cloud native
James Maguire
@digitalmarks I don't agree on this one. Edge will have a major gravitational pull -- as much or more than cloud.
Dan Griffith
@MarcLinster For some enterprise clients, absolutely. Majority? Not yet clear to me
Carolyn Duby
A8: In the future multicloud will be more seamless. PAAS is out performing IAAS so there will be less emphasis on the implementation and where the service is running.
Dan Griffith
Agree to the extent that data provides that gravitational "pull"
digitalmarks
re: edge, absolutely! I consider it an abstraction.
Chris Ehrlich
A8: The market will be quite mature, as cloud migrations hasten and multicloud is part of the implementations
Carolyn Duby
@MarcLinster Agree. It doesn't make sense for organizations to learn three or four different ways to do the same workload with security and governance.
James Maguire
Q7. What vendors are the biggest winners in multicloud?
Dan Griffith
A7: Not precisely a vendor, but CNCF projects (and their associated vendors)
Krishnaprasath "KP" Hari
A7: Multicloud strategies benefit #cloud providers and #hyperscalers first. Solution and service providers who are able to provide integrated cloud services and manage it effectively for reliability, #resiliency and cost optimization will also benefit.
Marc Linster
A7 Postgres has benefited tremendously from multicloud (see Stackoverflow developer survey https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2021) - it has become the database of choice on all major clouds #eweekchat
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Marc Linster
Cloud Native Computing Foundation https://www.cncf.io

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https://www.cncf.io
Cloud Native Computing Foundation
Cloud Native Computing Foundation
Cloud Native Computing Foundation (CNCF) serves as the vendor-neutral home for many of the fastest-growing open source projects
Krishnaprasath "KP" Hari
Cloud native computing foundation to drive open-source projects and solutions.

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James Maguire
@KPHariHitachi Why hyperscalers first? They find more competition.
Dan Griffith
A7: @JamesMaguire tks for the acronym check. ;) The Cloud Native Computing Foundation, home of the Kubernetes project and many other container ecosystem projects.
Krishnaprasath "KP" Hari
Hyperscalers first because their consumption with multicloud strategy will increase across the board.
Carolyn Duby
A7: The jury is still out. Multicloud offers more options that make it easier to bring a workload and consume more both on premise and in the cloud. Ease of delivering business value drives consumption.
Daniel Graves
A7: Vendors who provide capabilities in any technology category that can operate consistently across the clouds. Data management, infrastructure configuration, CI/CD tooling, governance and compliance...
Chris Ehrlich
A7: Major providers. They’ll be chosen as the primary provider for their reach, which the strategy relies on, as well as the de facto complement to niche players.
Larry Carvalho
A6: It allows a customer to escape vendor lockin.
James Maguire
Q6. What’s a big myth associated with multicloud?
digitalmarks
A6: That if you’re not doing multi-cloud, you’re doing something wrong. Not to undermine any of the advantages we’ve been discussing, but if you’re happy with a single provider, that’s OK!
digitalmarks
A6: Multi-cloud introduces complexity, and you want to go in with your eyes wide open. If a single provider is meeting your business needs, you should really take the time to weigh your motivations, the perceived benefits, against the complexity you are introducing.
Krishnaprasath "KP" Hari
A6: The biggest myth with multicloud is that it provides a straightforward approach for increased #reliability, cost efficiency and optimized ways of working.
Krishnaprasath "KP" Hari
A6: In reality, having the right design, architecture and operations of a workload in a multicloud environment is a must to unlock the true potential of multicloud.
Dan Griffith
A6: Going multicloud mitigates vendor lockin
James Maguire
@KPHariHitachi It's anything but straight forward, surely!
Marc Linster
A6 IT execs may think that multicloud is easy-it is not. E.g., one can easily drift from RDS Postgres to Aurora for Postgres for a specific project, but that just put an end to the multicloud option. Data gravity is a problem too - apps tend to go where the data is

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James Maguire
@dangit_hub So true. Multicloud also includes vendor lock-in.
Dan Griffith
A6: Taking a deliberate, planned approach to abstraction can mitigate some lockin risk. Multicloud in and of itself is no panacea.
Marc Linster
Until the vendor changes their pricing or licensing, and then you are stuck. You are back to where you were with conventional software vendors - locked in
Daniel Graves
Exactly. Multi-cloud is often being locked into multiple clouds.
Daniel Graves
Which brings us back to two very different multi-cloud strategies: 1. Trying to make everything portable across clouds for future migration, and 2. Assuming things built in any cloud will stay there, and determining which workloads/data should live in each cloud.

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Chris Ehrlich
A6: In a way here, the natural portability of open source in the architecture.

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Daniel Graves
Enterprises needs to make this choice and follow through with people / process / technology to achieve it
Larry Carvalho
A5: Standard consultant advice: Start small with non-mission-critical workloads. Never embark on a multi-cloud journey only for reduced costs.
James Maguire
No doubt those words are often uttered!
Larry Carvalho
A4: 1. Getting appropriate talent knowledgeable in tools from multiple cloud provider tools. 2. Interoperability between workloads and finally, 3. Common security posture between multiple cloud deployments
James Maguire
Q5. What advice would you give companies to optimize their multicloud?
Krishnaprasath "KP" Hari
@JamesMaguire A5: @HitachiVantara we believe that an effective #multicloud strategy or implementation is underpinned by a strong design and architecture.

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Dan Griffith
Infrastructure as Code (IaC). Always. Everywhere. For cloud infrastructure teams, your multicloud platform is your product, and development/operations/security (DevSecOps) teams are the consumers
Krishnaprasath "KP" Hari
A5: Here are three key considerations: 1) look at a workload in a holistic manner as compared to individual cloud resources – infrastructure, network, application, data and security etc.
Krishnaprasath "KP" Hari
A5: 2) design, build and operate with a right balance of reliability, efficiency and cost management. 3) manage multicloud environments with a consistent and automated set of configuration and policies for seamless integration.
Chris Ehrlich
A5: Lean on their vendors to help solve cloud challenges as unbiased experts. Partners and solutions will emerge.

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digitalmarks
A5: Designate a group to own strategy and management. At a minimum, task them with instituting controls around performance and spending. Tools, capabilities, and standards are evolving, and this group should regularly evaluate those in conjunction with stakeholders and real data
Marc Linster
A5 Use Postgres - it is available on every cloud PaaS and IaaS. Using Postgres provides complete cloud portability and vendor independence. Outside of Postgres: use standard open source software, not the cloud-specific forks. Avoid lock-in like the plague #eweekchat
Dan Griffith
A5: We have proven that even for mainly IaaS workloads distributed across multiple CSP's, using a common IaC approach is the single greatest lever to mitigate complexity
Marc Linster
@dangit_hub I agree - manual deployment at scale, without Infrastructure as Code is a losing proposition
Daniel Graves
A5: If a companies objective with multi-cloud is avoiding lock-in, then they have to carefully govern the architecture and services decisions for each project. Easier said than done with the real-world pressures on project velocity.
Daniel Graves
A5: enterprises can help project teams by building out enterprise-wide best-practices of DevOps processes and tools, technologies, open-source components and multi-cloud software capabilities to leverage.
Carolyn Duby
A5: Choose a partner and platform designed for secure multicloud that can scale and grow as your data needs change.