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Q3. What are the most pressing – and most common – multicloud challenges today?
Ramesh Prabagaran
A3. Probably the single biggest I have comr across is consistency across environments. If you draw a matrix of capabilities (vs) hyperscaler - you'll see holes and inconsistencies that will make your head hurt. Each service - compute, network, data will have nuances
Bernard Golden
A3: Complexity involved when using vendors that have different management, monitoring, security, and service offerings. It can quickly become a combinatorial challenge to keep apps in multiple clouds operating properly, along with skill breadth issues
Chris Ehrlich
A3: Interoperability, central management, and security as the multicloud universe expands
BMC Software
A3: One challenge we see is getting visibility into the entire application / service stack, particularly large enterprises who run on-prem, #cloud & #mainframe – where their business services span #multicloud (&datacenter) environments.
Ramesh Prabagaran
...and trying to achieve consistency with an inconsistent underlying set of capabilities is not easy
BMC Software
@bernardgolden ultimately its about ensuring a consistent experience across multicloud platforms.
Ram Venkatesh
A3 Multicloud does not mean least common denominator, providing a consistent user experience while taking advantage of the underlying cloud provider's capabilities is the balancing act.
Ram Venkatesh
A3 This is where open really helps IMO. Open APIs, Open protocols and formats can really help drive consistency cleanly
James Maguire
@ramvzz So open source is the holy grail of multi cloud computing?
Bernard Golden
A3: Open source is a way of achieving consistent functionality and operations across clouds; however, it comes with the cost of taking on curation, integration, and operation of the user's open source components.
Michael Liebow
org model. ITops is not the way.
Michael Liebow
@cloudDay_2 (liebow has joined the chat -- technical problems)
James Maguire
@cloudDay_2 What's wrong with ITops in this context?
Bernard Golden
A3 I find many orgs start down the path of DIY systems based on open source, but find that it requires more investment and ongoing involvement than first assessed.
Ram Venkatesh
Open source has its challenges too, but in this context, its powerful, especially compared to the alternative
Michael Liebow
treating the cloud like just another data center is not the model. You'll hit a wall with antiquated processes and tools.
Bernard Golden
A2: I agree with what @Chris_Ehrlich said about multi-cloud motivators, and would add another: regulatory feedback about business concentration risk in relying too heavily on a single provider, both from a business risk perspective as well as a technical availability risk
Bernard Golden
@JamesMaguire A1: Wouldn't say chaos so much as independent groups/business units making app-specific deployment choices. With the spread of cloud as @bmcsoftware said, tech orgs desire to implement a more structured approach that includes overarching requirements
James Maguire
Q2. What key trends are driving the multicloud sector here in 2022?
BMC Software
A2: The simple answer: cost & functionality. Every #cloud provider is looking to differentiate themselves from each other - evolving from purely #Infrastructure as a Service to delivering an extensive Platform as a Services with a broad range of managed services.
Chris Ehrlich
A2: Ongoing cloud migrations, cloud competition, vendor lock-in, domain-specific solutions, and redundancy as cyber threats increase
Ramesh Prabagaran
A2. If you focus on whats driving this from within the Enterprise, really 3
Ram Venkatesh
A2: Its' customer needs. Optionality is underrated except when you need it. With evolving cost and risk concerns, customers are looking for solutions that best fit their needs, be it on another cloud than their primary choice or even onprem.
Ramesh Prabagaran
1) Multiple business units with each BU having autonomy to make cloud and devops decisions 2) M&A - when a company acquires another 3) app centric development - where some workloads run better on 1 cloud vs other
James Maguire
@ramvzz Love this: " Optionality is underrated except when you need it."
Ramesh Prabagaran
@ramvzz +1 on customer needs. choice and optionality rule this decision in a staggering way
Bernard Golden
A2: and, as @ramsba pointed out, inevitably a company acquires another which has made a different cloud provider choice and, whoops, you're multi-cloud!
Ramesh Prabagaran
@bernardgolden spot on. one day you are consciously single cloud, one acquisition later boom - you have to deal with multicloud complexity
Ram Venkatesh
A2: One topic that has been mentioned so far - regulatory compliance. Customers sometimes have to consider alternative clouds to stay compliant with emerging regulations regarding data governance. For them multicloud is existential.
Bernard Golden
@ramvzz Yes, have frequently seen that with financial firms.
James Maguire
Q1. How would you describe the current state of the multicloud market? Nascent, still growing, at peak? Or how?
Ramesh Prabagaran
A1. Depends largely on the size. Large Enterprise multicloud usage is higher and growing. But as a general principle (for both technical / commercial reasons) most anchor to one cloud and have tentacles as needed on other clouds. Not uncommon to see 90-10 #eweekchat
Bernard Golden
A1 I would say most customers have multi-cloud plans and typically have systems running in most clouds, but more a case of one app here and one app there rather than an integrated strategy with consistent architectures, operational practices, etc.
James Maguire
@bernardgolden An element of chaos involved? Or not really?
BMC Software
A1: The answer depends on the org. Every customer is on a journey to cloud – typically #multicloud – but are in all different stages and for the most part continuing to expand #cloud adoption.
Bernard Golden
A1: should have said several clouds, not most. Agree with @ramsba statement about current usage following Pareto principle, but many orgs desire deployment flexibility to more broadly spread deployments percentages.
Chris Ehrlich
A1: A fast-growing market with major second-tier tech players making moves to take share from the big three.
James Maguire
@Chris_Ehrlich Definitely a big group of other players attempting to grab share. And succeeding in various niches.
Ramesh Prabagaran
chaos certainly for a variety of reasons
James Maguire
@ramsba Those reasons for chaos include....?
Ramesh Prabagaran
3 primarily - architecture, team / org structure and ops. The choice you make on multicloud will be largely influencing the above
James Maguire
Enough prep! Let's talk to the experts:
James Maguire
Please: To address Q1, please begin your answer with "A1." Q2 = A2, etc. This keeps our threads organized.
James Maguire
I’ll ask questions--one every few minutes--and our guests tweet answers as they see fit. Everyone following the conversation – join in. But let's stay on topic!
James Maguire
Ramesh Prabagaran, CEO, Prosimo
Chris Ehrlich, Managing Editor, Datamation
James Maguire, Editor-in-Chief, eWeek [moderator]
James Maguire
Our guest experts today are:

Bernard Golden, Executive Technical Advisor, VMware
Joseph George, Vice President of Product Management, BMC
Ram Venkatash, CTO, Cloudera
Michael Liebow, Global Head, Atos OneCloud
Lahav Savir, CTO and Co-Founder, AllCloud
And...