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James Maguire
Q9. Final question: What else is important about multicloud – what else should companies be aware of?
Chris Ehrlich
A9: Multicloud’s rapid growth will deepen globalism.
BMC Software
A9: You can outsource your infrastructure or even your applications but ultimately you cannot delegate responsibility for how #IT meets your business needs.
James Maguire
@Chris_Ehrlich Fascinating, and I agree.
Bernard Golden
@Chris_Ehrlich A9: I would reverse order of your statement. Globalism, esp among multinational users, will drive multi-cloud adoption. Those are the companies that most need to solve consistent operations, security, reporting, etc.

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Ram Venkatesh
If you are not multicloud, you are all-in, choose wisely
Michael Liebow
Disagree. Trend is away from globalism. Hyperscalers are investing in hyperlocal. Sovereignty is a big issue for some regions, yet the premium to be sovereign is untested.
Ramesh Prabagaran
First question would be - am I multicloud by choice, or by operating reality. If by choice, establish governance, policy, metrics ... if its by operating reality - learn whats driving this and implement appropriate levels of control (there's no one size fits all)
Michael Liebow
Companies need to focus on their people. Re-skill. Re-model. Re-tool. Golden opportunity to reinvent themselves in the face of significant disruption. Now. Not in a few years.
James Maguire
@cloudDay_2 Yes: "Companies need to focus on their people"
Ramesh Prabagaran
Also companies needed to deepen their talent pool in this area.
James Maguire
Q8. The future of multicloud? Where will we be in 3-5 years?
BMC Software
A8: We’ll continue to see #multicloud growth with specialization as #cloud platforms mature. There are still workloads in private data centers that are ripe for moving. Tech vendors are expanding cloud use to power #SaaS offerings, so there’s runway for growth.
Michael Liebow
I think the question is -- what will enterprise cloud adoption look like in 3 years? How much workload moved vs today? A lot of enterprise cloud programs stall, not outright fail, but flail. Big difference. There's lot of hand waving but no real business benefit.
Ramesh Prabagaran
If it is about right workload for right cloud - then trending up. If its about single app getting fragmented across multiple clouds - I'm skeptical ... there's too much ops friction for this to come true
James Maguire
@cloudDay_2 Will there be less flailing by mid decade?
Chris Ehrlich
A8: It will be a rather mature market, and customers will benefit from fierce competition in the space, particularly with more proven deployments across sectors.
Michael Liebow
hard to predict with any certainty. You need a business imperative to change the org and the ways of work. We've seen old tech never die, persist for years. There would need to be a real effort by boards to pay down debt.
Bernard Golden
A8: The future of cloud is enormous. I would be remiss if I didn't pitch my @eweek piece from last week about hyperscale quarterly revenues: Multi-cloud will grow along with overall cloud adoption but represent only a portion of overall adoption. https://www.eweek.com/cloud/cloud-q2-22-res
https://www.eweek.com/cloud/cloud-q2-22-results/
Cloud Earnings Results: Best of Times – or Worst? | eWEEK
Cloud Earnings Results: Best of Times – or Worst? | eWEEK
The top three cloud vendors continued their strong revenue growth, yet growth numbers are down from the previous quarter. What does this say about the future of cloud?
Ramesh Prabagaran
I'd love to see competitive pressure drive consistency in capabilities, and reduce costs. But given how the hyperscalers also own mega businesses in different sectors, I feel external forces will drive the decision in a different direction
BMC Software
@ramsba Nirvana is where apps and business services can seamlessly span multiple clouds and will be the litmus test for #multicloud maturity.
Ram Venkatesh
A8: Portability will get easier. Data egress costs will come down (come on lets be bold, we have the Easy Button). Multicloud will get simpler as a consequence.
Ramesh Prabagaran
@BMCSoftware Yeah happening in some select usecases e.g. autonomous driving / VR. But for mainstream and core business apps, I doubt if this will happen...
Bernard Golden
@cloudDay_2 Michael, I addressed challenges of large initiative 'lift and shift' in referenced @eweek piece. Frequently see adoption bog down as migration work becomes apparent. https://www.eweek.com/cloud/cloud-q2-22-results/
https://www.eweek.com/cloud/cloud-q2-22-results/
Cloud Earnings Results: Best of Times – or Worst? | eWEEK
Cloud Earnings Results: Best of Times – or Worst? | eWEEK
The top three cloud vendors continued their strong revenue growth, yet growth numbers are down from the previous quarter. What does this say about the future of cloud?
James Maguire
Q7. What’s a big myth associated with multicloud?
Ramesh Prabagaran
A7: (1) Multicloud does not solve vendor lockin (2) Multicloud does not mean you are free to move workloads on a whim (3) Multicloud does not magically provide resilience or solve complexity...infact it only makes it worse
BMC Software
A7: Myth: It’s all about the costs. While cost efficiencies are part of the equation, having a #multicloud strategy isn’t strictly about $$ but about optimizing fit for your needs. It’s about efficiently & effectively delivering your service or application first & foremost
James Maguire
@bmcsoftware Indeed. I think cloud was sold early on as a cost saver, but it's never been the real value. Instead, think scale and function.
Chris Ehrlich
A7: Flexibility will result in efficiencies. Multiple engagements can grow to unnecessary or mismanaged spend.
Michael Liebow
@ramsba yes. no magic bullet. and abstraction and layers only create more complexity, latency, cost. Best execution venue still wins.
Ramesh Prabagaran
@bmcsoftware ...and I have my cloud-provider's bill to prove it :-)
Bernard Golden
A7 That's there's an easy button to make it happen. https://www.crowdchat.net/s/96a7k
https://www.crowdchat.net/s/96a7k

James Maguire
@bernardgolden We all want that button! Does it have AI? :)
Bernard Golden
Next version of button
Michael Liebow
you're going to have multiple cloud providers in your shop regardless of best intent. There are no central IT dictates -- BUs will do what they want because they can.
Ramesh Prabagaran
@cloudDay_2 That BU piece is golden. Seen too many cases where BUs are simply given autonomy to choose cloud & region as the need dictates. Tough job for central IT team if there needs to be one
Ram Venkatesh
Autonomy is like entropy, there is only one direction in reality, central teams need to accept this and plan for it. More governance, less mandates
James Maguire
Q6. What’s the relationship between multicloud and hybrid cloud? In a multicloud world, why do some cloud providers focus on ‘hybrid cloud’? I'm simply curious :)
Ramesh Prabagaran
A6. Unless you are a company that was formed in the last 3-5 years, hybrid cloud is the normal - onprem + lots of public cloud. Public cloud piece here could be multicloud, single cloud etc.
BMC Software
A6: In my experience, large enterprises are rarely 1-cloud only shops. The reality is that most customers are "hybrid multicloud" - i.e., they have some applications & infrastructure in data centers that they manage & the rest are spread across multiple public cloud platforms.
James Maguire
@bmcsoftware This does appear to be true: "The reality is that most customers are "hybrid multicloud""
Ramesh Prabagaran
Now unless the onprem piece is <10% of the problem, you want to have consistency in operations - so naturally cloud providers focus there ... 2 viewpoints here. Cloud-Out (vs) Onprem-in - choices will differ depending on center of gravity
Michael Liebow
There's too many BS terms floating around, generated by vendors that want to sell old stuff. @JamesMaguire
Bernard Golden
A6 As others have said, all enterprises have significant on-prem environments, so "hybrid." What I find interesting is how many enterprises are planning to completely exit their own data centers and move everything to public cloud.
Chris Ehrlich
A6: Hybrid cloud strategy invites multicloud solutions. Multicloud vendors focus on hybrid, because prospects looking at the hybrid model are primed for change and a partner.
Ramesh Prabagaran
@cloudDay_2 The marketing teams will be up in arms desperately seeking to show differentiation - but agree with you 100%. Too much focus on terminology and we haven't even touched "Edge" yet
Michael Liebow
We live in a hetergenous world with lots of old and new. Important we leverage the old, not dismiss it, but actively seek to pay down tech debt and build new, leveraging the latest, greatest. Talent is attracted to the latter, not the former.
Bernard Golden
A6: Biggest challenge with hybrid is orgs would love to make on-prem cloud-capable, but legacy environments (and esp) control plane make that very challenging. That's why hypercloud providers exist!
Michael Liebow
I'm more interested in cross-cloud solutions than multi-this or that. Focus on security, policy, governance, standards, cost -- that's critical to create value from tech investments.
BMC Software
@bernardgolden It's easier said than done for those companies. Hybrid is here to stay for the foreseeable future.
Michael Liebow
Vendors use hybrid to rationalize their old stuff -- survive another day. There's no doubt there are enterprise requirements at the edge, in remaining DCs and in the public cloud.