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Enterprise IT Predictions
Thought leaders from NetApp and industry professionals discuss 2014 Enterprise IT predictions.
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John Furrier
@dvellante and I were broadcasting @theCUBE at #reinvent AWS show and we said AWS is like a tidal wave hitting the enterprise the question is how far onshore will the water flow - meaning how much of the enterprise will it take b4 other respond?
Krish Subramanian
AWS is definitely hot but how much they can break into the enterprises is something we need to wait and see
Krish Subramanian
They will have a sizable marketshare few years down but nowhere near the monopoly status pundits are predicting
Ryan Beaty
It's a good model, but leaves a lot of room for a personalized experience. Not everyone is looking for just hardware cloud solutions. They need a provider to help them through the entire stack.
Michael Keen this is where we will c the local telcom providers step up their game. They have the "trusted provider" relationship that enterprises r looking for IMO
Chip Childers AWS has much more than just "hardware cloud solutions". They are leading through a variety of services with a variety in the services' levels of abstraction. They are also leading by providing different ways to compose the services.
Ryan Beaty @chipchilders So they actually help you with more than spinning up some servers and giving you some resources? When was the last time they helped someone with software living inside the VM?
Chip Childers Every time they provision an RDS instance, they help with those VMs. It's not a "managed OS" question. It's about completely abstracting away the details of a specific architectural component.
ScottLindars
Eyes are on it, time will tell on adoption, but I think there will be a lot of tire kicking for sure
Krish Subramanian
Pundits usually miss out the impact of OSS till it actually happen
Crowd Captain @michael_keen says many taking holistic approach - I agree and would add that the Datacenter operating system will include hybrid cloud architectures hence increasing value of OSS and its impact
Aaron Delp
RE: OS & CS co-exist and grow. I believe there is room for both projects. Many lump them (and vCloud) into the IaaS bucket when all three have very different architectures under the hood and handle workloads differently. Many don't get that
Aaron Delp
RE: AWS, they will grow as public cloud grows but the challenges often aren't technical in nature, they are political and compliance challenges that often stand in the way
Krishna Subramanian
Enterprises are looking at hybrid strategies - mix of public and private clouds. Many may not go fully public - virtual private clouds (public hosted but walled) may end up being the right answer.
Dave Vellante
customer today told the @wikibon crew they spend $7B/yr on IT and w/in 5 yrs 20% will be public cloud
Krishna Subramanian
Customers are definitely looking for open source solutions in the cloud for greater control and flexibility. Technologies like Openstack and @cloudstack are getting support of traditional and new vendors.
ScottLindars
and Enterprise appetite and acceptance for OSS is growing. We'll see more and more of that in 2014
John Furrier
I have been hearing lots of complains about Openstack privately in that it is still not ready for prime time.. no one wants to say that publically..what do you think? Cloudstack also has an active community like Openstack
Tarun Thakur not sure -- just heard from big customers this week on how OpenStack is gaining momentum on prod workloads - and, they were very vocal
ScottLindars both are OSS, but CloudStack and @CloudPlatform have hundreds of production clouds. Hype vs implementation.
Krish Subramanian Not sure I agree. When outside of Red Hat, I have seen big orgs using both platforms.
Aaron Delp I can't comment on OS, I can say when I was at the CloudStack Collab conference it was a very different audience. Folks were running in production and trying to help each other optimize their environments
Krish Subramanian I would say it depends on their needs and existing investyments/relationships
Krishna Subramanian Open source clouds do work - Cloudstack has a great community and 500+ production clouds running at scale - Edmunds, Spotify, TomTom, BT, Bell Canada, Disney,...
Tarun Thakur not sure -- just heard from big customers this week on how OpenStack is gaining momentum on prod workloads - and, they were very vocal
Aaron Delp
We can see by the growth of organizations interested in contributing to both projects
John Furrier We've debated this in an early CrowdChat but can you share to the audience why they both can coexist and grow..this is important distinction that many don't undertstand in the noise of cloud market
susanwu88
Containers, LXCs, Warden, Docker, adoption seems to be happening by devops, I'm interested to hear about monetization strategies to the enterprise...
Krish Subramanian
It is still early stages but there are ways to monetize on the management plane (for eg: Docker)
susanwu88 early indeed, perhaps in the form of support and/or professional services
Krish Subramanian
Containers will be solving portability aspect of some of the complex workloads including Big Data. Lots of monetization opportunities will emerge
John Furrier
I still am having hard time getting my head around the productization of containers.. the path it takes and it's position in the architecture.. I am not well informed here..any basic ways to explain it to me?
Krish Subramanian People had problem wondering about monetization around VMs too. It will happen at higher planes around orchestration, management, etc
John Furrier
What are thoughts around Openstack and networking for the cloud - #sdn should new innovative services be developed or should it come from traditional networking vendors? thoughts?
ScottLindars
Standards are important, hence motions like the OpenDaylight Project
Crowd Captain
This was the discussion we had in the crowd this week in SF link: https://www.crowdchat.net/openstackneutron #openstack
Aaron Delp
New Innovative Services for sure in either OpenStack or CloudStack. But Traditional vendors can still be innovative
Krish Subramanian
It is early stages with OpenStack and networking but it will eventually help smart vendors disrupt the space
John Furrier
First up what areas of the enterprise do you think will be the most disrupted areas that predictions will be falling into?
Ryan Beaty
Virtualization, Storage, and Media
Krish Subramanian
Virtualization is the main area
Aaron Delp
virtualization and networking
John Furrier what kind of #sdn flavor do you see in the cloud model of say openstack.. new services or same old networking model?
Krish Subramanian
We are going to see disruption in Virtualization coming from the container side. Containers are getting maturity and simplicity
Aaron Delp I agree with Krish... LXC and containers have huge interest right now
ScottLindars
Moving about specific technology, the relationship between IT and business units, as IT starts to deliver IT services
susanwu88
Sales and Marketing, due to data volume, velocity and make timely decisions on them @netapp @citrixcloud
Krish Subramanian
We are going to see business units more empowered while IT staying relevant through agility gained from newer technologies
ScottLindars hopefully the two are coming to the table together in 2014
Krish Subramanian
DevOps enabled by cloud and container technology is going to play a key role in this relationship transformation
Ryan Beaty For sure, I see DevOps actually driving the move to a hybrid or full cloud infrastructure.
ScottLindars
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John Furrier
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ScottLindars
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