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Who most strongly influences organizations’ thinking on cloud adoption?

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Dave Vellante
Q5. Thinking about these apps - what can you do in private/hybrid that you can't do in public cloud? http://www.via-cc.at...

Lawrence Hecht harder to optimize your existing infrastructure
Peter Burris legacy DBMS-based apps.
John Furrier compliance ? legacy stuff ?? good question I'm not sure what the top use cases are
Krish Subramanian A5. I don't think it matters except for governance and regulatory needs
yaron haviv its a connected world DCs will be in public/hosted clouds (on the internet), no more server-rooms & ROBO
Bobby Patrick maximize data locality, performance and protection
Bobby Patrick any traditional monolithic app should not really be on a public hyperscale cloud
Tim Crawford What you can/ can't do is heavily influenced by what you will/ won't do.
Kenneth Hui It's a moving target. Public cloud is innovating faster than private cloud so that uses cases that are private only is shrinking.
Dave Vellante Predictable demand apps are going to be less expensive on-prem?
yaron haviv Active Data will be close to its source, e.g. IoT, Exchanges, .. but preferably close to the internet backbone
Peter Burris apps that the physics gods don't like. IoT edge; complex apps with large write/read ratios.
Nik Garkusha Low latency apps (manufacturing, fin serv compute), many high memory, networking on disk i/o, data compliance reasons
Scott Sinclair The difference between public and private is often about the particular business and their perception of the cloud. For example, we see firms keep data on prem for better security, and we see others move data to the cloud for better security.
Dave Vellante @yaronhaviv wait until the last question :-)
Niki Acosta Customize hardware infra, networking models, meet data sovereignty needs
yaron haviv need to distinguish "on-prem" from Hosted, many private will move to hosting facilities
Tim Crawford Today, just about anything *can* be done in public cloud today. The question is: why you would/ would not or should/ should not.
Niki Acosta GPU, film/media rendering
Kenneth Hui At large scale that is definitely true. Reserved capacity in public clouds could narrow that gap but it's too difficult 4 most users right now to get a handle on.
Niki Acosta @tcrawford bandwidth charges/latency
Stuart Miniman isn't the cloud dead? Edge computing is why on-premises will be very interesting (more than some of the legacy reasons) - here's the A16z video https://vimeo.com/19...
Rob Peglar Reverse innovation - one can try new/innovative hardware approaches on-premises far faster/more efficiently than in public cloud. Big breakthroughs via this path are possible.
Dave Vellante @nikiacosta u mean on-prem is cheaper?
Wayne A. Walls customize hardware directly to software needs, e.g., google building hardware specifically for gmail ... most companies are not going to get to this size or need for a long time though IMO
Rob Peglar At a certain scale, on-premises is far cheaper in many cases. TCO models are plentiful. Key is how one treats/manages data.
Kenneth Hui Saying on-prem is cheaper than public cloud or vice versa is not helpful without proper context. Would like 2 reports that show for every dollar spent for on-prem & for public cloud, how much money does it generate in revenues.
Lawrence Hecht
http://www.via-cc.at... workloads in the cloud from #Interop report

Niki Acosta Excellent chat!
Niki Acosta Excellent *chart*
Dave Vellante Mostly private - lots of public and hybrid is new(ish) - depending on the defn
Lawrence Hecht that was posted in reference to others asking me things
Niki Acosta Interesting to see ERP on that list.
Stuart Miniman the @futureofcloud survey looks at some of the same private/public trends - here's the recent data http://www.slideshar...
Dave Vellante @nikiacosta thanks for joining Niki...awesome comments
Wayne A. Walls Fun to see authN and authZ on there, allowing 3rd party services to provide access to systems that span on and off prem.
Lawrence Hecht @stu thx, I didn't have it right in front of me
Jonathan Gershater what is the source for that table you posted please?
Lawrence Hecht 2017 State of the Cloud Joe Emison author
Report http://reg.interop.c...
Niki Acosta @jgershater Looks like UBM State of Cloud Computing Survey Oct 2016
Lauren Cooney Workloads likely the most important area to watch given it's how many of this co's make/save $$
John Furrier @lcooney Lauren is in the house
Lawrence Hecht some workloads cost lots of money...so yeah
Lauren Cooney I've been watching for 15m :)
Dave Vellante
Q4. Let's talk apps - what classes of applications are driving business change? http://www.via-cc.at...

Dave Vellante Data...data...data...
Lawrence Hecht Data is a big one
yaron haviv driving customer engagement
Peter Burris Customer engagement, first.
Krish Subramanian A4: Product Functionality, Customer Engagement, Analytics, IoT not necessarily in that order
Lawrence Hecht Or you can look at the types of workloads that have migrated already -- email, CRM, etc.
Dave Vellante If it's digital its data and if it's digital it's often something to do with customers
John Furrier #analytics and data are now a feature of all digital distruption
Peter Burris @krishnan but a pretty good stab at ordinal rank!
Bobby Patrick #IoT definitely. Machine learning on all kinds of data will accelerate
Tim Crawford The most critical apps I see are focused on Customer Engagement. The other classes either touch CE or one of the other biz objectives.
yaron haviv Enterprise wants customers engaged, and with smooth UX, drive satisfaction, loyalty and up-sell
Alex Williams product functionality and the flexibility of the organization to use that functionality to adapt.
Kenneth Hui Many enterprises target streamlining biz ops as low hanging fruit.
Dave Vellante @LawrenceHecht why those workloads lawrence?
Kenneth Hui Things like analytics and IoT may be more strategic but harder to tackle.
Niki Acosta Seeing tons of Big Data, retailer apps (e-commerce), financial institutions, test/dev, and media streaming/delivery
Scott Sinclair It depends on what cloud your are referring to, for SaaS email and CRM lead the way... IaaS can be a different story
yaron haviv Analytics, AI, IoT are the ways to keep users engaged and happy
Niki Acosta @tcrawford Not seeing systems of record moving over
Lawrence Hecht those are workloads I have seen with lots of adoption in the public cloud. @dberkholz has seen data more than I
Bobby Patrick #IoT is key behind global GDP explosion from $4.2 trillion (2016) to $11.1 trillion (2025)
Tim Crawford @nikiacosta Nope. Those are going to be some of the hardest for a number of reasons.
Peter Burris @tcrawford agree! \cloud reach facilitates engagement, opening up other business options.
Niki Acosta SaaS is a big one. Almost all of our @ciscocloud customers are going hybrid
Tim Crawford @Scott_Sin Lots of general business apps moving to #cloud. Those are less strategic functions.
Rob Peglar Several CE and analytics apps which require simple scale-out to function well; or back-office apps which are very static. Agree that systems of record are staying on premises. However some apps are 'returning home' as on-premises s/w and scale get easier
Janette Hausler Starts w internal apps -- big data and business operations
Niki Acosta Seeing a ton of service provider activity around NFV/SDN
Wayne A. Walls i personally think saas is the biggest game changer...it's not only disrupting internal systems, but it's also permeating into application design / microservices.