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Optimizing teams by activity instead of by outcome.

Architecture (massive tech debt)

Hah... And tech debt too..!! Darn Conway!

Making it "simple"-er to use exiting tools. (installation-as-documentation must die)

Mainframe?

I problem seems to be growing - too many tools and too many tools discussion

@TopoPal Who's the trouble maker who said Mainframe...

Tool consolidation. Everyone has a favorite xyz... Also, dealing with legacy systems ("afraid to touch it")

@ScottPrugh 1. Silos 2. Siloed thinking 3. Slioed working

figuring what to do with legacy applications... Should I stay or should I go...

silos are killers.... Really difficult to break people out of the localized optimization mindset.....

The problem isn't about the tools. The problem is central to cultural shifts that are needed.

Silos and Process Variance. You can't automate what you can create a pattern for which requires eliminating non-value added variances

I also think that lack of test automation for legacy app is a problem - big tech debt.

nothing wrong with mainframe. We have DevOps teams on Mainframe applications

Another key @puppetlabs State of DevOps finding: architecture matters: testing w/o integrated test env & ability to independently deploy code.

@TopoPal Convincing business owners to invest in automation of "legacy" apps is very hard. They don't want to "waste" the money but these apps can drag them to the bottom.

IT is still in IT rather than in the business

a big problem facing IT is the loss of quality individuals who understand how to get there, are passionate about doing it, but are not given the opportunity to do so

@JanJoostBouwman Love to hear the details

@TopoPal sure, I can organise something. It isn't easy, because of the lack of tooling, but it is possible to do at least some of it.

Yes hard to keep up with all the knowledge being laid down, here...

Should we start a thread to capture the most "important" take aways?

And you're even good at the Twitters

fortunately, the whole discussion lives on here on CrowdChat.net for us all to go back and review!

my session just crashed...

@JanJoostBouwman You must not ne Devops :)

The Chef Conf videos from 2014 and DOES 2014 were all excellent. I would highly recommend them as resources

increase in pay for sure

wrote something about that a little while ago - http://itknowledgeex...

Attend...

Start thinking about more than just your immediate roles and responibilities

get a better understanding of your delivery and operations value stream. Identify what obstacles are in the way of delivering more quickly and providing seamless feedback.

read this list https://gist.github....

http://devops.com/20...

big-picture thinking and collaboration with people to achieve more makes you like a mini-CEO. That's a nice little promotion right there...

.@ranjun_chauhan Grt glib line from @glennodonnell: "If ur title has 'admin' in it, u may be in trouble"

@RealGeneKim i remember that! Had some folks a little worried...

as the new generation of engineers in the enterprise take over devops ethos will take over 100% but on premise will change but only the size of the footpring

.@HalieNoble I do believe the best days of Ops are ahead of us, not behind us.

@RealGeneKim Shouldn't that be.. If your title has admin you have a great opportunity in front of you.

the train is leaving the station - where do you want to be? on the train or at the station?

Sincere Passionate Evangelism?

You keep kicking the tire... Great stories from Ross, Heather, Jason and Courtney .. on this list..

Internal devopsdays.. internal blogs... hackathons...

meetups and devops days

Meet ups, demo's, conferences - internal, and external.

@botchagalupe internal events are great ways to build momentum in a large enterprise for sure!

Been enjoying the internal stories highlighted by @mfdii on The Goat Farm podcast - good examples of internal evangelism, training, identifying business challenges

internal conferences are huge. That's how we got the conversation moving at Target.. We've put on 5 internal DevOps Days.