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Anyone have any insight on how DevOps is affecting outsourcing?
David Ashman
Negatively. DevOps being so much about culture and collaboration makes outsourcing (not offshoring) extremely difficult and ineffective.
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John Furrier
I have an opinion on this; it is impacting outsourcing in negative way bc companies bringing core competency in house; outsourcing (renting) non core assets still
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Elisabeth Hendrickson
@catpoetry anecdotally I saw orgs pull a lot of development back in. I don't have stats.
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CrowdFather
mobile infrastructure is driving lots of change to force companies not to outsource. Outsource vendors are building full blown clouds
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Steve Brodie
This whold push to automated testing is having a big impact as well
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Elisabeth Hendrickson
@stbrodie How so?
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prathap dendi
DevOps creates a positive pressure on outsourcing value-add to move up the chain..away from mundane stuff such as provisioning, config etc
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Steve Brodie
Seeing this big shift from manual testing which was commonly offshored or outsourced
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Damon Edwards
Silos create DevOps problems. Near impossible to outsource part of lifecycle without creating silos.
David Ashman
@stbrodie Agreed - We're in the process of a major switch from outsourced testing to more in-house automation.
Scott Prugh
DevOps makes outsourcing less of a brute force labor arbitrage play.
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Steve Brodie
DevOps and CD is collaboration and automation. This is very hard to achieve with the outsourced model
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Elisabeth Hendrickson
@stbrodie Yes, I saw the same thing starting with Agile: the shift away from outsourcing commodity manual testing to devs automating & embedded testers on teams.
Scott Prugh
Since technology/software/automation is a multiplier the value curve of outsourcing changes. This is the "10x engineer myth" at play.
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Tim Crawford
How much of brining #devops internally is in the ineffective ability to manage it externally?
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John Furrier
@tcrawford Tim great to see you
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Steve Brodie
@tcrawford Can you clarify what you mean by managing it externally?
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Tim Crawford
@stbrodie X-function leveraging internal + external resources.
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Andi Mann
@damonedwards Very true. This is part of the legacy issue that larger enterprises face. Startups simply don't have to deal with insourcing 5000 people from a 3rd-party facility in India.
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Tim Crawford
Startups also have a different problem to solve vs. enterprises. !=