DOES14

DevOps Enterprise Summit
CrowdChat with Gene Kim and Steve Brodie about DevOps Enterprise Summit in Oct 2014
   6 years ago
#DOES14Future of DevOps and CD Hosted by Steve Brodie, CEO of Electric Cloud, and Gene Kim, noted DevOps author and researcher
John Furrier
Question: What are some of the barriers to accelerating the pace of quality software into production and deployment?
Steve Brodie
Many organizations have bottlenecks due lack of automation or silos of automation
Gene Kim
A common theme among submissions for #devops adoption barrier was "low trust culture" and "culture culture culture"
Steve Brodie
In many of the organizations we visit, common bottlenecks include long build times, manual testing, and slow deployment and provisioning
CrowdFather
What about roles of different clouds? I like AWS for something not for others? How do I work across the cloud providers?
Wesley Pullen
@stbrodie I completely agree here.
Steve Brodie
As Gene notes, the solution is multi-dimensional. A successful CD/DevOps transformation requires evolution in culture, process and technology
Gene Kim
I love the universality of certain #devops barriers: culture, manual testing, compliance... we're all fighting same battles.
Steve Brodie
@Crowdfather DevOps is fundamentally cloud agnostic IMO
Evan Powell
We see a lack of trust and transparency in cross silo automation - if any exists. Agree w/ @stbrodie
Steve Brodie
@Crowdfather We see organizations implementing CD on top of private cloud baed on VMWare, OpenStack and others
John Furrier
@stbrodie Can you explain the silo piece in detail
Steve Brodie
@Crowdfather We also see organizations doing DevOps on a variety of public clouds
Evan Powell
@stbrodie at the risk of the worst acronym in DevOps, do we need Automation As A Service? We've seen it just a few places, not broadly done (yet).
Steve Brodie
@epowell101 Evan, you are correct, the trust issues are some of the biggest challenges
Steve Brodie
@epowell101 I believe the reality is that organizations with strong silos and trust issues probably struggle to achieve faster cycle times, higher quality, greater responsiveness and better uptime
Gene Kim
.@furrier @stbrodie: Yes! In research, high trust was 1 of top predictors of lead time, MTTR, deploy freq.
Gene Kim
PS: Here's the PPT that @jezhumble, @nicolefv, @nigelkersten gave 2 wks ago: http://www.slideshar...
2014 State Of DevOps Findings! Velocity Conference
Presentation by Nicole Forsgren Velasquez | Jez Humble | Nigel Kersten | Gene Kim
Steve Brodie
@epowell101 We probably have more than enough acronyms in our industry before we introduce AaaS :-)
Evan Powell
@stbrodie Regarding lack of trust in automation, we see a N^2 integration challenge too. Many to many tied together w/ scripts typically or "real code" at places like AWS.
Steve Brodie
@stbrodie @epowell101 That said, many of our largest customer have setup centralized, shared continuous delivery services on an internal private cloud
Steve Brodie
@epowell101 Regarding the N^2 integration challenge, definitely a challenge with point to point integrations or linkages
Steve Brodie
@epowell101 Some of the most successful organizations we see employ and E2E orchestration solution to automation the software delivery pipeline from developer check-in to production release and feedback loops from produyction monitoring
Wesley Pullen
@stbrodie What will a participant walk away with after attending #DOES14?
John Furrier
always the best question; what's the core value: content or networking, technology, or all?
Steve Brodie
Participants will hear stories from some of the world's leading enterprises on the transformative benefits they are seeing from DevOps and CD
John Furrier
I would ask too who should attend the DevOps Enterprise Summit?
Steve Brodie
Participants will see that DevOps and Continuous Delivery is not just for Silicon Valley tech companies like NetFlix, Google and Facebook
Gene Kim
Hi, @WesleyPullen! Attendees will see orgs that look like them, undertaking #devops transformations that they can hopefully replicate themselves.
Steve Brodie
Participants will hear real-world case studies from customers like GE, Disney, Barclay's Capital, Nordstrom and many more
Wesley Pullen
Hey @realgenekim :)! Great to see you on this chat. Any chance you will hi-light patterns or roadmaps that participants can walk away with to implement and use within their own companies?
CrowdFather
What giveaways do we get?
Gene Kim
Early analysis of #does14 submissions and accepted talks: top titles incl "chief architects", "Dir/VP", "distinguished engr/technical fellow" (!!)
Steve Brodie
Participants will also hear how Continuous Delivery is the new Agile - an evolution and extension of Agile focused on accelerating delivery of valuable software into the hands of end users
Gene Kim
(I've always had deep respect for Distinguished Engineers & Technical Fellows. Serious kung fu. :)
Steve Brodie
We've got some incredible swag! You gotta join us to find out ;^)
Wesley Pullen
Hey @stbrodie :). Thanks for the details.
Steve Brodie
@Crowdfather Join us to see all the incredible swag
CrowdFather
@stbrodie AWS always get slammed for bad swag
Gene Kim
Absolutely, we plan on on writing up key findings from #does14 on #devops horse transformations
Terri Douglas
I've heard #ContinuousDelivery is called the "New Agile." Can you share your thoughts on that?
Steve Brodie
Agree 100%. The focus has been on Agile "development" for a long time. E.g. are we doing scrum or pair programming, meeting standing up, etc
Steve Brodie
in some cases there were religious battles and we lost sight of the 1st principle of the Agile Manifesto. Focus o continuous delivery of valuable software to customers
John Furrier
Continuous Deliver to me is #devops goodness so I love this concept; The new agile makes sense; all new developers are native to devops and strong #opensource communities
Steve Brodie
With the publication of Jez Humble's book on "Continuous Delivery" recently, the focus has once again turned to the first principle, recognizing that value is not added until the software in the hands of the end users
CrowdFather
Opensource is the new mafia. Tier 1 citizen.. now we need to maintain the peace
Gene Kim
High trust is one of top predictor of #devops perf. We all benefit from #agile movement that started 11 yrs ago
John Furrier
@Crowdfather Who are the five families?
Steve Brodie
@furrier Loving the Godfather reference!
John Furrier
@stbrodie Everything you need to know in business you can learn watching the #godfather :-)
CrowdFather
I'll ask the big question.. Does Amazon end up running the entire table in public cloud? Does anyone have a chance to compete?
John Furrier
AWS is kicking ass no doubt; Andy Jassy team is innovating very fast. Enterprise grade is big issue thought and many like IBM, VMware/Pivotal, HP, and Microsoft have a say there
Steve Brodie
AWS certainly has a big lead at the moment. Personally, I would not count out Microsoft Azure or Google's renewed push
Gene Kim
(It's awe-inspiring to see Google's recent mobilization of engrs into their cloud efforts...)
Oren Carmeli
it'll be hard for AWS to compete against a wide array of competitors by itself. Similar to the competition between iPhones and Androids
Crowd Captain
When we talked to the founder of Dropcam at #AWSreinvent it was clear that #devops model will replace traditional software development practices and solutions
John Furrier
@Oren_Carmeli who is iphone? AWS? fully integrated stacks is the key; #oracle calls it engineered systems .. I call it purpose built
Steve Brodie
Regardless of how the cloud wars play out, we all benefit as the cloud is such a major enabler of the DevOps and CD movement
Steve Brodie
For many organizations, provisioning new hardware or virtual machines is a major bottleneck
Steve Brodie
Public and private clouds remove one of the major inhibitors to responsiveness and faster cycle times
Oren Carmeli
@furrier These companies are like athletes. They can rise to the top, but their status is ephemeral. There will always be a new generation to replace the old.
Gene Kim
A submission I hope makes it in: "Millions Of QA Engrs Worldwide Will Be Disrupted By #DevOps" @paulpeissner
Gene Kim
(Most humans I know want to help QA/testers who only know manual testing, trying to live in #devops world)