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IT who? #devops changes the face of IT

Software is ubiquitous, and technology provides strategic advantage even for decidedly non-tech companies.

Software has become the primary innovation driver across nearly every vertical

All joking aside; the lines between IT as organization vs the business functions are blurring so IT is not a dept anymore it's everywhere

I dont know if IT has become a strategic asset

Because every business is a software business, so IT is a critical success factor. Like Andreesen said in 2011, software is eating the world. Today, pretty much every business is being rewritten by software. To poke Nick Carr in the eye, IT still matters.

You always hear about the examples of Netflix and Amazon disrupting their market levergaing technology and software

most software innovation that matters isnt being done by the IT dept

We are seeing even more software driven disruption. Look at Nest with their home automation, Uber and how they are disrupting taxi market

@wickett I disagree - I think you have pockets in different places in different companies.

@wickett I agree with you 100% IT needs to be more innovative

IT is constantly bottleneck for app dev, reporting envs, audits so the need for agility and Devops and eliminating that bottleneck @JerDoug

@wickett Agreed. Oftentimes, traditional IT has become a bottleneck

Do you think in house software development is a legit trend or just hype?

This is often the driver for adoption of IaaS and SaaS at the departmental level

At the base, technology is a workforce multiplier. It can unlock multiples of value delivery in business.

Yes, Devops moving faster than legacy markets Apple vs. Kodak, Uber vs. Taxis, Amazon vs. Retailers. Use data virtualization for your speed.@JerDoug

@wickett That is a rather bold generalization. In the same spirit, I will say that it is a bad one. Enterprise IT departments can and do drive innovation that matters. Often through cloud, devops, agile, mobile. Odd that you have never seen it.

IT Innovation is core of success 49% of Leaders adopted DevOps to speed application delivery vs 6% of Laggards http://www.ca.com/us...

@AndiMann or odd that you have? in seriousness whatever it is, call it R&D or stealth IT or in-house startups... people usually circumvent traditional IT to make things happen

@wickett heh, good shot! But yes, while 'shadow/rogue' and biz users are doing a lot to transform their biz (and fwiw, circumventing IT is not at all new), it is a myth that IT is not. Actual brand-named IT depts are also innovating.

Actually do it. Like Agile, Lean, etc... most are only doing parts or in name only

Perhaps surprisingly, we see many embedded software development organizations beginning to adopt CD practices

More integrated software support. End to end solutions that make it easier for all participants to see the success and failure of their pipelines.

Does the group think there is different processes for web vs native mobile? thoughts

I think we'll see wider adoption. I'm biased because I work on @cloudfoundry, but I think PaaS will be a big part of that.

@stbrodie Not just embedded. Hardware is doing agile too. See http://www.agilesoc....

@stbrodie We have customers like SpaceX doing Continuous Delivery of the software going on their Falcon rockets. CD is imperative to achieve their goal of 25 rocket launches in 25 months

Q2 is my baby, @furrier. The future of continuous delivery is the ability to sync to a source ONCE and create unlimited virtualized copies of that source as of any point in time in minutes. True data on demand without boundaries.

Large enterprises can gain value in many of the CD practices without actually delivering to production.

Q2: In the end, I see continuous delivery as the ability to sync and virtualize once, govern in a single place, and deploy anytime/anywhere (cloud included) without obstructions or intervention. A smooth data supply chain.

One of the problems we started running into is the speed at which the end consumer can take the updates.

@OracleAlchemist Not sure I understand what you mean by sync to a source & unlimited virtualized copies. Are you talking about data?

Scott: That has been Blackboard's primary blocker in CD.

@testobsessed Apps + data, the whole stack. If we can provision entire environments to any team at any time, we can make testing and process flow truly automated and bottleneck-free.

@testobsessed Sorry, having to multi-part the answer so it wasn't totally clear.

@David I think end user engagement(early) and feature toggles are key...

The danger with feature toggles(especially by customer segment) is twofold: 1) complexity explosion and 2) false testing security(you still need to test all the feature toggles)

@ScottPrugh Agree with thoughts on feature toggles ... deploy != go live

Do you see any difference between continuous delivery and continuous deployment?

@aJimHolmes Technically, yes. But even beyond the difference, enterprise companies seem to be so much more comfortable with delivery as opposed to deployment.

how do you split them?

For me, continuous deployment applies for deployment sw. For our shipping product, we focus on continuously deliverable (tho not delivery since it's enterprise sw).

We have many customers doing continuous delivery but not doing continuous deployment to production environment/target

There is huge value in having your software always ready to release even if you are not continuously deploying to prod

@stbrodie I find that a lot of people don't really understand that - even if you never see that release in the wild, knowing you have it holds value.

Re my prev response: meant to say continuous deployment applies to *deployed* sw - web sites, SaaS, etc.

It depends on the type of company... If you look at large enterprises, you will see a lag in state of the art compared to leaders(Unicorns) like Google/Twitter/Etsy.

Historically most of the stories about CD have been from well known tech companies like Google, Facebook, Netflix, Etsy, etc

We're now seeing more traditional Enterprises begin to adopt DevOps and CD practices

In the large enterprise case, there is a lot to be gained by applying Lean and these DevOps principles to change the flow of value to customers/stakeholders.

I think the state of continuous delivery is unevenly distributed: some orgs are doing it; others are nowhere close.

I feel it still focuses very heavily on the engineering side of things and not so much on the end to end process of delivery. It's amazing to see the progress that historically enterprise companies have made, but there's still a ways to go.

In this increasingly competitive world, there is increasing pressure to deliver software innovation faster and with higher quality

The challenge for large companies is that there are barriers wired into their DNA that may prevent the improvements.

Continuous Delivery in the software industry is more like US Postal Service rather than Dominos Pizza

So we are starting to see adoption in Financial Services, Retail, Gaming and even in Embedded Systems development

@jezhumble does a thing during his talks where he asks the crowd a series of questions to see if they are actually doing CD... starts with lots, ends with almost no one.

But the adoption of Devops and CD in larger traditional enterprises is a journey.

@wickett Can you elaborate on your comparison(ie: USPS vs Pizza)?

Completely agree - there's a lot of history and legacy blocking a lot of larger companies.

@wickett Only if Dominos still guaranteed 30 minute delivery. ;-)

For many organizations, they start their journey with Agile development and begin adopting Continuous Integration (CI). But the state of adoption of CI varies pretty widely across organziation and even teams within the same company

Absolutely true! Cultural and historical organizational silos are frequently the biggest impediments in our customer base

Depends what you mean by 'software development industry', but by and large it is probably a de facto standard in newer and smaller development houses, but far from that in traditional large software development. There is a huge amount of inertia.

@damonedwards There are definitely maturity levels that organizations reach in terms of CD. But, many orgs many have issues achieving the full vision. Some of these constraints may come from external forces too. SLAs and change windows play a part here.

@stbrodie Exactly our journey. We started with Agile and began to run into the "Agility Wall" with operations. And we actually increased our failure rate before getting better

Scott: Agile is great but can Agile work in native mobile apps? is there a distinction?

@stbrodie From a "Lean Optimization" standpoint this is why the Systems View is important. If you only optimize one part of the system it eventually comes back to haunt you...

@ScottPrugh Same here. We also had a few thought leaders in operations that started a grass roots effort to demonstrate the value of CD/CI.

But make no mistake - there is crappy practice in smaller dev shops as much as in large enterprises; and large enterprise developers are absolutely adopting CD. But it varies wildly from shop to shop, even app to app.

The concepts of Agile(high performing, cross functional teams that deliver working software) work in a variety of industries

in our mobile app teams, we are focused on continuous flow.

Dominos vs. USPS is my pithy attempt to say we call a really long and slow delivery of a package as CD because we chained it all together

what people really want is fresh hot pizza delivered just minutes after it was made... software should be like that

@Courtney I saw your abstract. Looks like we have a lot to discuss in San Fran...

@ScottPrugh Looking forward to it! Will be great to meet in person.

@AndiMann How aligned is traditional large sw development in targeting CD as a goal and just need to get there? (vs. those that aren't yet prioritizing CD?)

@wickett Got it. Yes. Flowing value in step with the business owner expectation is key.

@forestmars Varies from biz to biz - but I see most IT leaders are not the moribund infra managers we often assume. Alignment and speed are increasingly top of mind, so yes, they are driving intentionally toward CD, though just 1 weapon in their arsenal.