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I really see it vary by vertical. Certainly, seems to be fairly standard practice for emerging, Silicon Valley startups

DevOps is where Agile was 10 years ago: real in some places, illusion in others, largely mysterious for most folks.

But, we are much earlier in the adoption cycle for many larger traditional enterprises

One of the big challenges is having a common definition of whatis meant by DevOps

@testobsessed so true!

I actually see DevOps being more like where Cloud was 7 years ago

We didn't have the definitions of IaaS and PaaS in cloud world and everyone was saying they were a cloud vendor

@stbrodie what is your definition of it?

DevOps is similar in some ways. Is DevOps a methodology, cultural movement, technology

@damonedwards I'll defer to Damon for the definition of DevOps

@stbrodie agree on #devops being like cloud 7yrs ago; it's about engineering

IT who? #devops changes the face of IT

Software is ubiquitous, and technology provides strategic advantage even for decidedly non-tech companies.

Software has become the primary innovation driver across nearly every vertical

All joking aside; the lines between IT as organization vs the business functions are blurring so IT is not a dept anymore it's everywhere

I dont know if IT has become a strategic asset

Because every business is a software business, so IT is a critical success factor. Like Andreesen said in 2011, software is eating the world. Today, pretty much every business is being rewritten by software. To poke Nick Carr in the eye, IT still matters.

You always hear about the examples of Netflix and Amazon disrupting their market levergaing technology and software

most software innovation that matters isnt being done by the IT dept

We are seeing even more software driven disruption. Look at Nest with their home automation, Uber and how they are disrupting taxi market

@wickett I disagree - I think you have pockets in different places in different companies.

@wickett I agree with you 100% IT needs to be more innovative

IT is constantly bottleneck for app dev, reporting envs, audits so the need for agility and Devops and eliminating that bottleneck @JerDoug

@wickett Agreed. Oftentimes, traditional IT has become a bottleneck

Do you think in house software development is a legit trend or just hype?

This is often the driver for adoption of IaaS and SaaS at the departmental level

At the base, technology is a workforce multiplier. It can unlock multiples of value delivery in business.

Yes, Devops moving faster than legacy markets Apple vs. Kodak, Uber vs. Taxis, Amazon vs. Retailers. Use data virtualization for your speed.@JerDoug

@wickett That is a rather bold generalization. In the same spirit, I will say that it is a bad one. Enterprise IT departments can and do drive innovation that matters. Often through cloud, devops, agile, mobile. Odd that you have never seen it.

IT Innovation is core of success 49% of Leaders adopted DevOps to speed application delivery vs 6% of Laggards http://www.ca.com/us...

@AndiMann or odd that you have? in seriousness whatever it is, call it R&D or stealth IT or in-house startups... people usually circumvent traditional IT to make things happen

@wickett heh, good shot! But yes, while 'shadow/rogue' and biz users are doing a lot to transform their biz (and fwiw, circumventing IT is not at all new), it is a myth that IT is not. Actual brand-named IT depts are also innovating.

Actually do it. Like Agile, Lean, etc... most are only doing parts or in name only

Perhaps surprisingly, we see many embedded software development organizations beginning to adopt CD practices

More integrated software support. End to end solutions that make it easier for all participants to see the success and failure of their pipelines.

Does the group think there is different processes for web vs native mobile? thoughts

I think we'll see wider adoption. I'm biased because I work on @cloudfoundry, but I think PaaS will be a big part of that.

@stbrodie Not just embedded. Hardware is doing agile too. See http://www.agilesoc....

@stbrodie We have customers like SpaceX doing Continuous Delivery of the software going on their Falcon rockets. CD is imperative to achieve their goal of 25 rocket launches in 25 months

Q2 is my baby, @furrier. The future of continuous delivery is the ability to sync to a source ONCE and create unlimited virtualized copies of that source as of any point in time in minutes. True data on demand without boundaries.

Large enterprises can gain value in many of the CD practices without actually delivering to production.

Q2: In the end, I see continuous delivery as the ability to sync and virtualize once, govern in a single place, and deploy anytime/anywhere (cloud included) without obstructions or intervention. A smooth data supply chain.

One of the problems we started running into is the speed at which the end consumer can take the updates.

@OracleAlchemist Not sure I understand what you mean by sync to a source & unlimited virtualized copies. Are you talking about data?

Scott: That has been Blackboard's primary blocker in CD.

@testobsessed Apps + data, the whole stack. If we can provision entire environments to any team at any time, we can make testing and process flow truly automated and bottleneck-free.

@testobsessed Sorry, having to multi-part the answer so it wasn't totally clear.

@David I think end user engagement(early) and feature toggles are key...

The danger with feature toggles(especially by customer segment) is twofold: 1) complexity explosion and 2) false testing security(you still need to test all the feature toggles)

@ScottPrugh Agree with thoughts on feature toggles ... deploy != go live