openstack

you beat me!

use cases (not during keynotes), best practices

let others chime in more, then will add

use cases not sponsored by company X or company Y

Jesse you're a bad ass at this CrowdChat great to meet you

enterprise gaps, ops challenges

making business out of openstack and OSS

. @blueboxjesse I would like to see @theCUBE get anchor sponsors - step big vendors last summit video catalogue here http://siliconangle....

Product Managers driving the evolution of Openstack, not developers

How do you propose that change within OpenStack community?

good one. I see this happening ( better late than never ) - check this out -http://robhirschfeld...

nice racket you got going here @CrowdChatApp

just 15 mins

Full steam ahead

its extended, rt?

CrowdChat extended by the votes from the crowd #socialmediainnovation #crowdbiz in action

Need to add this to the feature list - # of votes equals extension time.. like #worldcup for Crowdchat

thanks for joining us. See you at the next chat!

take care.

Great idea

at the meta level, a rising tide floats all boats

this is perhaps just the nature of open source. @Peter_Levine wrote an interesting article while back - http://techcrunch.co...

my take is entry of large vendors will help everyone. I for one happy that Hitachi is one of those big vendors. But as I see around, we work very closely with lot of small vendors.

Enterprises need the "blanket of comfort" from the big vendors bc support is HUGE issue. There is no land grab other than support imho

I think large vendors can make the small distribution game difficult.

great point

@blueboxjesse it did, with at least one earliest distros

but overall, they bring in the comfort and reliance that enterprise customers want

@ItsTheNetwork I don't agree with Levine there. The success of @hortonworks in hadoop is evidence you can make support work in #opensource no matter what generation it happens in

They're still all delivering OpenStack incorrectly.

@ItsTheNetwork I love peter levine but he is drinking his own kool aid

@furrier yeah - don't agree with that specific point on whether there will be another Redhat. To your point Cloudera is another company. But post make some great points around role / how big companies play in open source space.

i am with @furrier on this, disagree with Peter Levine

@ItsTheNetwork Don't for get @mapr just got $100m in funding for another use case.. plenty of beachhead for all in huge transformative markets

there is only one pure play open source company that has made > $1 billion dollars. and it took them quite a while to do so.

The problem for the small companies is that the big vendors came in very early. Red Hat & Ubuntu had years to establish themselves and develop their versionsof Linux.

@joshbarry is that that the only metric?

speaks to the difficulty of growing a pure play open source biz.

@joshbarry agreed; most importantly, customers are quite ready for pure play open source without the enterprise level support

This is again because OpenStack is FUNDAMENTALLY different than every other type of OSS.

@blueboxjesse The failure domain of an OpenStack installation is so much greater than any other standard OSS.

and one click installation FOR ANY complex software is mythical

@blueboxjesse agree - more of a case of offering openstack as service - which is a point Peter Levine makes too ( The winning open source model turns open source 1.0 on its head. By packaging open source into a service )

then it's the case of having right expectations then

Also at least what people tell me is Open Stack is not yet really mature. It requires a lot of "connective tissue" between modules, which is what IBM, HP, etc., provide.

@ItsTheNetwork Exactly. Hence why Distributions are doing it wrong.

@blueboxjesse fun "yellow card".

Any love for distros here?

silience is deafening

No. Because it's the wrong model. :)

:)

i think the choice largely goes with exiting relationship, if any

A RH customer will get RHOPS, HP customer will get HP Helion OpenStack

new customer will try from trunk.

speaking from customer engagements, its a wide open field. Many customers are asking for support of upstream vanilla release. Distros don't matter to them as long as they have throat to choke.

Try from trunk is a disaster.

open source or not. Expecting that from openstack is not logical

throat to choke - almost all major vendors say this

yeah, the support burden is not on the openstack community, but the vendor who sells the openstack based private cloud.

and that seems to be the winning model thus far, rt?