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Hybrid Storage Arrays
Storage experts discuss the pros & cons of hybrid storage arrays. Are they the best of both worlds?
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Jean-Luc Chatelain
Independent hybrid storage vendors have opportunity to offer in-array workload acceleration vis sw which allows customer to use the array in a application environment free of application vendor lock-in. Just saying :-)
John Furrier
I think that there is so much opportunity for many to succeed.. finding the swim lanes will be key and the bigger the value prop the better the swim lanes
cmosoares
@furrier This will be the challenge for many AFA startups unless they're looking to get acquired.
Dave Vellante
@cmosoares many (most) are looking to get acquired
Dave Vellante
your points today abt software are right on - SW-led (we call it at Wikibon) is the logical progression of where the industry has been for the last 20 years
John Furrier
Question 6: What about in virtualized environments? Can all storage architectures handle VM workloads equally well or is hybrid better?
Bert Latamore
And how do hybrid arrays play into private clouds?
Jean-Luc Chatelain
@BertLatamore In the absolute yes in both cases, again the sw will make the difference and adherence to provisioning "standards" like #openstack
Bert Latamore
@jean-luc Definitely agree. Software is the key differentiator among the arrays.
Michael Dautle
Hybrid definitely has an advantage in virtualized environments. All flash is too expensive for virtualized environments and does not deliver good price/performance because most data is idle. Delivering the same performance with non-hybrid requir
cmosoares
Hybrid arrays are superb for virtualized environments. ZS3 can support over 10,000 VMs per system; EMC announced support for 6,600 for VNX 8000.
See Wikibon on Flash-first advantages http://bit.ly/NYPhn6...
John Furrier
Question 5: What do ZS3 Series hybrid storage arrays bring to Oracle Database environments?
Dave Vellante
You know Oracle will tout things like Hybrid Columnar Compression as unique to Oracle storage - which it is in Oracle environments - I haven't studied these use cases in detail however
Steven Zivanic
ZS3 Storage is co-engineered with Oracle Database; it's auto tuned, data is auto tiered and auto compressed. HCC, OISP and ADO provide customers with business advantages and efficiencies.
Bert Latamore
Certainly compressiin & dedup in general r becomingmore important with flash storage & higher available compute.
cmosoares
Beyond just sheer performance, the ZS3 Series has unique advantages (Hybrid Columnar Compression, Automatic Data Optimization+HCC, Oracle Intelligent Storage Protocol) not available to third party storage systems, such as EMC and NetApp.
Kerstin Woods
Hybrid Columnar Compression is a good example – compress Oracle Database 10-50X depending on usage for 3-5X less capacity, less energy used, lower upfront costs. And, 3x-8x faster queries.
cmosoares
With HCC customers can get 10-50X Oracle Database data compression, reducing CAPEX and OPEX\
Kerstin Woods
A good summary of the unique advantages ZS3 has for Oracle DB: http://medianetwork....
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Dave Vellante
My advice to customers is always - those things are way cool - make sure you can take advantage of them or there's no value there
Steven Zivanic
there's a material difference between storing 800TB or 100TB, across environmentals, operations and overall costs; customers can run the HCC Analyzer tool to determine how much they can save on storage for Oracle Database.
cmosoares
Advanced Data Optimization with HCC – provides policy-driven, usage-based HCC compression and automated data tiering.
Kerstin Woods
@cmosoares ADO is a great one - eliminates manual intervention to reduce the admin workload and accelerates the compression savings & performance advantage.
Kerstin Woods
Compression Advisor for HCC is available here: http://www.oracle.co...
cmosoares
Oracle Intelligent Storage Protocol (OISP) reduces 65% of manual processes involved in storage tuning for optimal performance. Database sends metadata regarding incoming data is used to tune storage.
John Furrier
Question 4: What workloads are hybrid storage systems best suited for?
Bert Latamore
Also how does software-defined storage and the concept ofbServer SAN http://wikibon.org/w... impact choice of hybrid systems?
Jean-Luc Chatelain
Mixed workload that have a high IOPS requirement but do not want to compromise on throughput when doing very long I/Os example is analytics modeling in big data (time series require long reads but computing the model needs IOPS
John Furrier
@InformationCTO that is interesting to separate transactional data from the sea of big data
Kerstin Woods
Benchmark results below show the ZS3 Series hybrid is superb for latency sensitive and high-throughput streaming applications, such as DB, BIDW, video on demand...
Dave Vellante
Their best suited for the "Fat Middle" - they're not suited for super low latency. They're typically not used for ultra high performance OLTP or super low cost archiving - great for general purpose workloads
Dave Vellante
Also DB-as-a-Service for tier 2 databases
Steven Zivanic
any time-sensitive applications benefit from a hybrid storage system; accelerating a company's time to insight is a key value provided by these offerings
Jean-Luc Chatelain
One example is retail pricing optimization analysis: read in GB long tables of multivariable time series and the compute like a madman with thousands of small R/W/M files then write out a long suite of results ->hroughput then IOPS then throughput
Dave Vellante
Hybrids beautifully fill the white space on this chart http://wikibon.org/w...

Dave Vellante
Right in the fat middle
Kerstin Woods
Backup is another good fit for hybrid system as a demanding workload where sustained write performance is required.
Dave Vellante
Totally agree - backup target is a great fit - super for bandwidth oriented apps
John Furrier
Question 3: What performance and price/performance can you expect from a hybrid storage array?
Dave Vellante
I would contend in the right use cases and at scale hybrid, flash/first arrays will lower capex and opex
Dave Vellante
Here's @dfloyer view of capex opex comparison of hybrid v traditional in file-based use case http://wikibon.org/w...

Kerstin Woods
Oracle ZS3 Series hybrid has demonstrated leading performance, price/performance, and low latency in industry benchmarks with performance and price/performance advantages over EMC, NetApp, IBM, and HDS
Jean-Luc Chatelain
To the risk of sounding marketing'ish (heaven forbid) the right hybrid delivers solid state performance at HDD pricing over mixed workloads
Steven Zivanic
Oracle ZS3 delivers 17 GB/s of throughput at a lower cost than other systems: http://www.oracle.co...
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cmosoares
@dvellante Wikibon has characterized those use cases , at least as far as ZS3 goes, as high-throughput applications such as data warehousing, backup. See it here ii. http://bit.ly/1icydb...
Dave Vellante
There's an interesting discussion going on in the Wikibon community around optimizing storage infrastructure and cutting
cmosoares
Here's comparative benchmark results for ZS3.
Steven Zivanic
Oracle ZS3 delivers sub-microsecond application response times, demonstrating the capabilities of a true hybrid storage architecture: https://m.oracle.com...
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John Furrier
interested in latency sensitive apps...what fall into this category
Michael Dautle
Financial / Trading apps
John Furrier
what about streaming media?
Michael Dautle
Client side buffering generally used with media b/c you cannot always control for all the latency between storage and client.
cmosoares
ZS3 showed lower latency at 7X less cost the EMC VNX8000
cmosoares
See this video for ZS3 vs. EMC and NetApp comparisons Speed, Simplicity, Savings: Oracle ZFS Storage Appliance
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