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Data Center of the Future
Follow along while Larry Ellison announces the next generation of Oracle Engineered Systems.
   9 years ago
#datacenterFuture of Data CenterTrends and Converged Infrastructure
Bjoern Rost
in-memory duplicate good for availability but prevents RAC scale-out #datacenter
John Furrier
in memory is sexy but it still has latency..how bout in-processor memory
Bjoern Rost
@furrier unfortunately not much volume to work with in L2 cache. but increasing memory bandwidth, compression and SIMD operations should take care of a lot
Phil Dunn
#SPARC has far superior memory I/O bandwidth, fastest in industry/CPU-#SPARC M7 will be the in-memory database monster!
Bjoern Rost
@Phil_Oracle but when will it be GA? Was hoping for some more info on that today
Phil Dunn
Larrry said to stay tuned! Sign up for Software in Silicon #Cloud, lets you test #Oracle's new #SPARC technology http://www.oracle.co...
Brett Murphy
Doesn't #IBM #Power8 have the greatest memory bandwidth at 192 GB/s?
Bjoern Rost
@PowerMan_SIS wow, impressive (and I did not know that). But #power8 maxes out at 512GB while the M7 chips drives 2TB of memory (and honestly I don't know the bw for that)
Brett Murphy
Not quite right, I believe #Power8 has 192 GB/s per socket with 512 GB of physical memory or 2 TB for the #IBM 1 & 2 socket Scale-Out servers. 230 GB/s and 1 TB/socket for up to 3,680GB/s & 16 GB for the 16 socket servers.
Brett Murphy
Even though #M7 is stated to have 2TB Ram per socket, that is for 32 cores. How many memory channels & controllers to drive all of that? #Power8 w 12 cores / socket drives 1 TB w Dual MC & 4 Mem Channels per socket using 230 GB/s to boot per socket.
Phil Dunn
Power S824 4xCPU measured bandwidth = 294.5GB/s =74 GB/s per CPU not 230 GB/s, SPARC T5-4 measured @ 321GB/s = 80GB/s & proven with STREAM, SPARC M7 will be more than 2x Have IBM publish P8! http://www.cs.virgin...
Bjoern Rost
#oracle supercluster has the same storage cells as #exadata (with same features) but #SPARC processors (and license hard partitioning) #datacenter
Dave Vellante
can you elaborate - what are the implications for DBAs?
Bjoern Rost
@dvellante you can pay db licenses for just the subset of cores you need, pay as you grow and use the rest of the capacity for general purpose VMs. supercluster is exadata++
Bjoern Rost
@dvellante also, if you are migrating from older sparc systems you have the choice of simply forklifting the old systems 1-to-1 or migrate them to the exadata stuff. all on the same box
Dave Vellante
have you seen flash also reduce the # of cores you need to deploy? And hence DB license and maint fees?
Bjoern Rost
@dvellante and you also get the most memory per CPU socket on the market
Phil Dunn
A lot of the Oracle Engineered Systems "secret sauce" tech is in the Exa storage cells. #unique competitive advantage
Bjoern Rost
@dvellante yes and no. modern cpus can drive an insane amount of work, bottleneck has typically been storage and io bandwidth. flash (and large memory) is pushing the frontier back towards CPUs
Phil Dunn
and actually, I believe that CPU memory I/O bandwidth is becoming a challenge especially as we move to in-memory Database & applications
Brett Murphy
If the current #Intel & #SPARC servers have roughly 30 - 60 GB/s of memory bandwidth as Juan said, can we expect #M7 to have something more competitive like #Power8 192 GB/s per socket?
Brett Murphy
Just to keep you honest, #Power8 delivers 1 TB/socket today which is what the M6-32 offers.
Phil Dunn
Power8 has only 16 dimm slots/CPU & 2 memory controllers requiring 2x greater dimm size to match SPARC M6 1TB/socket having 4 memory controllers & 2x more dimm slots/CPU. larger dimms always higher $/GB
John Furrier
I'm excited to interview John Fowler - I did a podcast with him in 2006 at Sun way back in the day
Ariana Gradow
Looking forward to it! John Fowler is Executive Vice President of Systems.
John Furrier
John Fowler is boss on tech!! #techathlete
Dave Vellante
fowler has a deep historical perspective on this biz
John Furrier
Fowler meets with Larry weekly to talk hardware business - it's huge weapon for Oracle
John Furrier
Larry is the master of the "long game" says John Fowler EVP Systems
Ariana Gradow
"It's a lot harder when the engineering involves contracts and non-disclosures" John Fowler talks about the Oracle's engineered approach
Ariana Gradow
"Oracle is investing to have unique value proposition"
Ariana Gradow
John Fowler has hired over 900 engineers from the top schools around the U.S.
John Furrier
john fowler explains the engineering systems on @forbes http://www.forbes.co...
Dave Vellante
Oracle is getting ready to show off it's growing portfolio of so-called engineered systems. Fruits of R&D labor - lots of competitive smack expected.
Dave Vellante
Larry Ellison reminds me of Larry Bird...Talks smack but can back it up with results
John Furrier
Oracle Chairman and CTO Larry Ellison going on shortly live feed is here http://live.silicona... #oracle
Dave Vellante
Several years ago IBM CEO Sam Palmisano said doesn't worry about HP, he worries about Orcl b/c they spend on R&D
Dave Vellante
You can watch Larry Ellison live at http://siliconangle....
John Furrier
This is about SUN now firmly established as Oracle Hardware the way Larry wanted it imho
John Furrier
this reminds me about my conversation with Andy Jassy #AWS integrated decision from day one the key to building awesome platform
Phil Dunn
Yeah, did you see latest Oracle Q2FY15 financials? R&D is roughly 14% of revenue with a 9% increase from last year. That’s more than 2x of IBM on per revenue basis, 5x more than HP
Brett Murphy
I heard at the last Oracle financials they were spending 12% of revenue on R&D, not 14% as Phil Dunn states. If IBM is twice as big as Oracle that negates the 2X statement does it not?
Neil Mendelson
Hey - on live. Any questions/comments
Jill S. Hulme
You spoke of enterprise big data. What is the difference between enterprise big data and big data? Isn't it all the same?
Marius Ciortea
why do I need Oracle Big Data, could I not just keep the data in hadoop
Neil Mendelson
@Radu43 Most people are putting data that is either new or unmanaged on hadoop and combine it with data in their operational systems. The operational systems and warehouses are on Oracle.
Ariana Gradow
@JillSHulme And @neilmendelson is gone... heading on theCUBE next
Jeff Frick
Watching Larry LIVE ?
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Oracle’s Next Generation Engineered Systems Launch: January 21, 2015 (Redwood City, CA) | SiliconANGLE TV
theCUBE will travel to Redwood City, CA to cover Oracle’s Next Generation Engineered Systems Launch on the 21st of January, 2015. John Furrier and Jeff Frick will host this year’s program live from Oracle’s campus
Jeff Frick
@larryellison > "We have a new strategy, we're going to compete for the 2-socket server business"
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Jeff Frick
@larryellison > "We didn't invent it, but we think we can do a better job."
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Jeff Frick
@larryellison > "We do the integration, so you don’t have to”
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Jeff Frick
@larryellison > "We’ve got the lowest purchase price in the industry”
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Jeff Frick
@larryellison > "It’s the whole Magilla as my Mom would say”
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John Furrier
Everyone knows that you can save 15% off car insurance too
Jeff Frick
Larry's gone to the Compute, Software, Storage, spreadsheet
Ariana Gradow
he is loving it!.
Jeff Frick
@larryellison > "We’re engineering all of our components so they work together”
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