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#HPHelion #Cloud Coffee Talk with Independent Blogger Community at #HPDiscover - Discussion in this thread
Tim Crawford
Have a who's-who of #cloud and #openstack happening right now in the room!
Jeff Frick
> Did you invite Linda Richman ?
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John Furrier
vip bloggers & influencers are "on the ground" in barcelona getting the signal and connecting the dots #awesome @hphelioncloud
HPE Cloud
@JeffFrick I resemble that "remark"
HPE Cloud
#HPHelion leaders @interrante @e_monty and Tom Norton talking with blogger community
John Furrier
Those are the top guys in the room. Awesome assembly of #openstack star power
Tim Crawford
Reality is that there is work to get from HP #OpenStack Community Edition to Enterprise Edition.
Tim Crawford
HP seeing that customer starting w/ a specific workload even if they've been working w/ #cloud for a while.
Tim Crawford
To be fair: Community Edition is still very new.
HPE Cloud
@tcrawford Correct, it is 5 months old and is refreshed regularly to stay near code tree
Ernesto Pellegrino
Great start for Enterprises to get their hands dirty and get an understanding of technology
Tim Crawford
The Enterprise Edition is intended to include upgrade ability for #OpenStack. #cloud
John Furrier
Upgrades *should* be easy. Yes, it takes a lot of work to make that happen, but that's why you pay for software instead of rolling your own. via @jpwarren
Tim Crawford
#cloud team making a big push of #devops yet the #TS team was moving away from it. #contradition?
HPE Cloud
The change to #cloud is a complete transformation. not a simple app or hardware change @e_monty
John Furrier
Ask "What is holding up production deployments by large enterprises?" What are the hurdles?
Tim Crawford
There are a LOT of dots between talking @ #devops and IT transformation.
John Furrier
I'm utterly sick of the "turn your enterprise into Google" argument. Most enterprises are emphatically not Google, nor should they be. says @jpwarren
HPE Cloud
@furrier Will do, discussion is focusing on how enterprises are trying to figure everything out.
Tim Crawford
@furrier AGREE! Let's STOP using web-scale as THE model for all enterprises.
Tim Crawford
@furrier I'm trying to interject a bit of reality into the conversation. #NotMotherhoodApplePie
HPE Cloud
@tcrawford All comments are welcome in this room. Even food related items as we are closing in on lunch
Chris M Evans
Imagine your bank account online statements had the consistency of a Facebook news stream.
John Furrier
@chrismevans most developers don't have the skills to do 100% asychronous apps and the infrastructure needs to be elastic and autoscaling etc
Chris M Evans
I never wrote anything in C. Mainframe assembler, definitely.
HPE Cloud
@chrismevans Old school C in the room including PL/1 but never COBOL
Chris M Evans
Actually, that's not true. I wrote stuff in C about 30 years ago. :-)
John
@chrismevans Complete with an "I don't want to see this vegetable" button?
Chris M Evans
I did COBOL too. I was never a hardcore programmer though (sorry, I should now say developer, we're no longer programmers).
John
@chrismevans I knew it when it was still 'c'.
John Furrier
@chrismevans If you're over 40 you write code in Java :-) under 30 it's node
HPE Cloud
@chrismevans COBOL programmers today are in huge demand, lots of $$ to be old school
Chris M Evans
@mrtugs How about a "like" button on my bank statement to like a money deposit?
Tim Crawford
In the past, applications didn’t know anything about the infrastructure. Today, that is different. #cloud
Justin Warren
All the cool kids code in Python.
HPE Cloud
@furrier @chrismevans Java - that is too new for me
Chris M Evans
@furrier Ha Java! I wouldn't lower myself to write in Java.
Ernesto Pellegrino
@tcrawford On the money. Still in its infancy New age companies get it however traditional enterprises need to change
Tim Crawford
Covering the importance that governance plays in automation & orchestration.
Chris M Evans
Agility without control = chaos. Yes. PROCESS MATTERS.
Justin Warren
Having to change everything to get value isn't appealing to enterprises. Incremental change over time preferred.
Chris M Evans
Oops sorry, for shouting.
Ernesto Pellegrino
@jpwarren This is definately a long term investment from HP
Tim Crawford
IT orgs will evolve to better support business units over time. #cloud #CIO
Tim Crawford
HP Helion is both a product and services.#cloud
Justin Warren
You're going to need the HP Helion services group to teach you how to do this well.
Justin Warren
Or some other consulting capability.
Tim Crawford
MyPOV: There are still silos across the services orgs that need to integrate more clearly.
Tim Crawford
It's good to hear that customers ARE seeing integration between the services orgs.
Tim Crawford
MyPOV: this #CoffeeTalk is very engaging and high-energy. #cloud
John
"Enterprise needs to get its head out of its ... uh, the mindset that..." ;-)
HPE Cloud
@tcrawford Thanks, the #HPHelion team leaders are here in force and questions are fantastic
John
To be fair, IE's problem was never the release schedule, IYSWIM.
Tim Crawford
I think someone just added a bit of kerosene to the fire. :)
Justin Warren
There's a bunch of "Facebook is awesome" fanboi stuff here.
HPE Cloud
@tcrawford You got @e_monty going and he has a viewpoint that he feels strongly about
John
Seconds out, round 2!
Justin Warren
If Facebook is down for 30 minutes, whatever. If core banking is down for 30 minutes, it's a much bigger deal.
Tim Crawford
My fear is that the polarized thinking could alienate many traditional IT orgs.
John
@jpwarren You'd think that, yet according to the Twittersphere, FB outage is a much more serious event.
HPE Cloud
@jpwarren True,but banks don't have national news cover it when they go down
John
Sadly that doesn't say much as to our expectations for banking uptime, does it?
Justin Warren
Popular != Important.
Tim Crawford
I like the idealistic thinking...but we need to keep it in check with the reality today.
Justin Warren
Facebook can lose a few posts. Banks can't lose transactions.
John
Good group of people here for this Coffee Talk. Enjoying the energetic discussion on both sides.
Justin Warren
@mrtugs I don't have VCs paying me $$$ to reimplement 30 year old concepts. ;)
Tim Crawford
Bottom line: HP's Helion #cloud strategy relies on the success of #OpenStack.
Tim Crawford
Arguably, HP Helion also relies on the success of the #OpenStack #cloud ecosystem.
John
"That's going to be announced next week." Oops ;-) *laughs* Good reaction.
HPE Cloud
@mrtugs It's one of those well known secrets that was out of the bag a few weeks back. Still fun
Justin Warren
Apparently Thou Shalt Call The Thing The HP Helion Development Platform, And Thou Shalt Not Call It Anything Else.
Tim Crawford
Docker and Kubernetes entering into the Helion #cloud conversation.
Tim Crawford
#OpenStack has 2,000 developers contributing to the effort. #cloud
Tim Crawford
Scale: Spin up/ down 10k-20k VMs a day. #openstack #cloud
Tim Crawford
Amazing: 5 root admins that support the effort. Only 5! #openstack #cloud #automation
Justin Warren
Comparing development of OpenStack with Linux. Everything old is new again.
Tim Crawford
Glad to see agreement that Linux and #OpenStack should not be compared. #cloud