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FUD, not knowing how to leverage what they already have, security and control perceptions.

It may be getting their arms around the fact that they are already “accidentally hybrid” by virtue of the fact that organizations outside of IT are engaged in cloud activity. You need a strategy that embraces where your are now@IBMSmrtrCmptng

many clients have security concerns, and also wonder about what to own and what to rent

@boniamd just brought up data issue that's huge

this thread ties data and security together as on core issue https://www.crowdcha...

btw I am not sure slowing down is right, most clients have been thinking in terms of hybrid all along, but it is a matter of where they start and how fast they can get to an integrated cloud management environment – maybe that’s it – integr@IBMSmrtrCmptng

@mjdblue I think the work it is going to take to make traditional IT and move it to work with Born on the Cloud is going to take time

Side question to this one... How much of the pace is slowed down by the historical messaging vendors and consultants have used under a tune of private vs public?

@degilio Agreed. But I am amazed at what they can do with the low hanging fruit.

Skills...

gr8 pt @rfk5 it's growing oppty and many want to go faster but cloud is being operationalized fast. Lots to consider depending on legacy tech etc

Skills and security

@pcarvao skills is always an issue - the right skills and enough bodies to be effective

@degilio Yes - or determining WHAT traditional IT to move to off prem cloud and what to keep on prem ( cloud or otherwise)

@BethATaylor20 Perfect - I think that most business are trying to figure out what vendors are saying

@BethATaylor20 love that pt. vendor fud but also understanding which workloads and use cases to put in public cloud is key; shadow IT has been happening for years. Harnessing that is key objective and changes the definitions of cloud

I've seen lot of partners/customers move to a SoftLayer bare metal box a recent deployed private or trad app with very good success and little rework.

@mjdblue Definitely - The need to be attacking this space because that is how they are going to learn and grow

Choosing the right cloud solution in 5 easy steps: http://ibm.co/1uzBHZ...

The real problem I see with taking traditional IT and moving the business model of using it as a service. That is harder than the tech...

@degilio Oh yeah. Business model is hardest inertia to overcome.

@furrier Agreed - And making sure that those decisions don't compromise the business

@mjdblue And critical to successs

and never forget the human factor : when moving to a hybrid model , some jobs / roles appear in the company

@BethATaylor20 Good observation, definitely a move towards discussion both together..meaning hybrid

@EricAquaronne And can disappear, Eric! Good point!

@danpanderson I see a big problem being organization and paradigm change as inhibitors

@degilio Was having a separate discussion of public vs. private necessary, tho, just to help clients digest what cloud is and could be? Just as hybrid is necessary to define the area between them?

@danpanderson Yeah - when I work with clients I focus on what problems do we want to solve - the cloud aspect comes in when you talk about the art of the possible with them

Think through the requirements for the services you will deliver & engage with a provider who can address your existing IT, and enterprise class integration with new SOE applications. Nobody can afford to throw out investments in place

setup the service managment layer (ICM), bring everything local that needs to be 'flexible' under it then connect to the service provider

In the future there will be two kinds of programmers: Hardcores focused on providing services and scripters who use the services. The education will be focused on the hardcores and service providers

Make sure you understand your API's and what's available from the other deployment vector's api's

@EricAquaronne Good example, the right openStack cloud manager like IBM Cloud manager w/ open stack provides the management layer needed

@degilio And which one are you ! :-)

this is why in IBM we created a service managment layer that can integrate all platforms : this allows hybrid inside a company (multi cloud/sites) and into a MSP (softlayer, local MSP....)

@rfk5 Definitely a hardcore - I am too old to be a good scripter

@rfk5 I've been crap since they took my punchcards away.

@degilio a 3rd will emerge - automated tooling for things like visualization or services as easy to use like powerpoint.

@mjdblue Ha !!

this app is born in the cloud :-) that's hardcore

@mjdblue Punch cards? I always took you for a tapeape

@degilio yeah, my first gig in IT was hanging tapes.

an agile strategy, designed for scalability and includes new innovative business functions will be key

Stop dating your(our)selves... :-)

@mjdblue anyone doing Fortran in the cloud?

@srf512 Ye Gods, I hope not! lol

@srf512 You say it lioke it is a bad thing

@degilio what's a punch card ?

Google FORTRAN on a cloud and you would be surprised ... we digress ...