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The move to hybrid cloud
It’s no longer public vs. private cloud. The future is all about hybrid.
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IBM Systems
What are the biggest things slowing down adoption of #hybridcloud in most organizations?
Michael J Dorosh
FUD, not knowing how to leverage what they already have, security and control perceptions.
Ron Kline
It may be getting their arms around the fact that they are already “accidentally hybrid” by virtue of the fact that organizations outside of IT are engaged in cloud activity. You need a strategy that embraces where your are now@IBMSmrtrCmptng
Eric Aquaronne
many clients have security concerns, and also wonder about what to own and what to rent
John Furrier
@boniamd just brought up data issue that's huge
John Furrier
this thread ties data and security together as on core issue https://www.crowdcha...
The move to hybrid cloud
For the customer who already run their virtualization (such as VMware), what's the step towards the Hybrid Cloud?
Ron Kline
btw I am not sure slowing down is right, most clients have been thinking in terms of hybrid all along, but it is a matter of where they start and how fast they can get to an integrated cloud management environment – maybe that’s it – integr@IBMSmrtrCmptng
Frank De Gilio
@mjdblue I think the work it is going to take to make traditional IT and move it to work with Born on the Cloud is going to take time
Beth Taylor
Side question to this one... How much of the pace is slowed down by the historical messaging vendors and consultants have used under a tune of private vs public?
Michael J Dorosh
@degilio Agreed. But I am amazed at what they can do with the low hanging fruit.
John Furrier
gr8 pt @rfk5 it's growing oppty and many want to go faster but cloud is being operationalized fast. Lots to consider depending on legacy tech etc
Niharika Trivedi
Skills and security
Michael J Dorosh
@pcarvao skills is always an issue - the right skills and enough bodies to be effective
Ron Kline
@degilio Yes - or determining WHAT traditional IT to move to off prem cloud and what to keep on prem ( cloud or otherwise)
Frank De Gilio
@BethATaylor20 Perfect - I think that most business are trying to figure out what vendors are saying
John Furrier
@BethATaylor20 love that pt. vendor fud but also understanding which workloads and use cases to put in public cloud is key; shadow IT has been happening for years. Harnessing that is key objective and changes the definitions of cloud
Michael J Dorosh
I've seen lot of partners/customers move to a SoftLayer bare metal box a recent deployed private or trad app with very good success and little rework.
Frank De Gilio
@mjdblue Definitely - The need to be attacking this space because that is how they are going to learn and grow
Niharika Trivedi
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Frank De Gilio
The real problem I see with taking traditional IT and moving the business model of using it as a service. That is harder than the tech...
Michael J Dorosh
@degilio Oh yeah. Business model is hardest inertia to overcome.
Frank De Gilio
@furrier Agreed - And making sure that those decisions don't compromise the business
Frank De Gilio
@mjdblue And critical to successs
Eric Aquaronne
and never forget the human factor : when moving to a hybrid model , some jobs / roles appear in the company
Ron Kline
@BethATaylor20 Good observation, definitely a move towards discussion both together..meaning hybrid
Dan Anderson
@EricAquaronne And can disappear, Eric! Good point!
Kyle Wurgler
@danpanderson I see a big problem being organization and paradigm change as inhibitors
Dan Anderson
@degilio Was having a separate discussion of public vs. private necessary, tho, just to help clients digest what cloud is and could be? Just as hybrid is necessary to define the area between them?
Frank De Gilio
@danpanderson Yeah - when I work with clients I focus on what problems do we want to solve - the cloud aspect comes in when you talk about the art of the possible with them
IBM Systems
Is there a path towards #hybridcloud integration? What kind of services and training can help with a smoother adoption?
Ron Kline
Think through the requirements for the services you will deliver & engage with a provider who can address your existing IT, and enterprise class integration with new SOE applications. Nobody can afford to throw out investments in place
Eric Aquaronne
setup the service managment layer (ICM), bring everything local that needs to be 'flexible' under it then connect to the service provider
Frank De Gilio
In the future there will be two kinds of programmers: Hardcores focused on providing services and scripters who use the services. The education will be focused on the hardcores and service providers
Michael J Dorosh
Make sure you understand your API's and what's available from the other deployment vector's api's
Ron Kline
@EricAquaronne Good example, the right openStack cloud manager like IBM Cloud manager w/ open stack provides the management layer needed
Ron Kline
@degilio And which one are you ! :-)
Eric Aquaronne
this is why in IBM we created a service managment layer that can integrate all platforms : this allows hybrid inside a company (multi cloud/sites) and into a MSP (softlayer, local MSP....)
Frank De Gilio
@rfk5 Definitely a hardcore - I am too old to be a good scripter
Michael J Dorosh
@rfk5 I've been crap since they took my punchcards away.
John Furrier
@degilio a 3rd will emerge - automated tooling for things like visualization or services as easy to use like powerpoint.
John Furrier
this app is born in the cloud :-) that's hardcore
Frank De Gilio
@mjdblue Punch cards? I always took you for a tapeape
Michael J Dorosh
@degilio yeah, my first gig in IT was hanging tapes.
Hema Reddy
an agile strategy, designed for scalability and includes new innovative business functions will be key
Paulo Carvao
Stop dating your(our)selves... :-)
Scott Firth
@mjdblue anyone doing Fortran in the cloud?
Michael J Dorosh
@srf512 Ye Gods, I hope not! lol
Frank De Gilio
@srf512 You say it lioke it is a bad thing
Ron Kline
@degilio what's a punch card ?
Paulo Carvao
Google FORTRAN on a cloud and you would be surprised ... we digress ...