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The move to hybrid cloud
It’s no longer public vs. private cloud. The future is all about hybrid.
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#infrachatFuture of the ChannelWho is the business partner of the future, and what's ahead?
Boni AMD
For the customer who already run their virtualization (such as VMware), what's the step towards the Hybrid Cloud?
Michael J Dorosh
looking for a provider that allows them to use their stack more or less as is, without serious rework.
Harald Seipp
My guess: Integrate by putting it under OpenStack (or CmWO in IBM terminology) control + use the IaaS gateway to connect to public clouds
Eric Aquaronne
first step is to make the app 'cloud compatible': many hard coded ones dont move to any cloud easy (host names, network...)
Eric Aquaronne
so there is work to move to the cloud : select what workload , prepare it, move it.... and setup all the right security and accesses
Frank De Gilio
Hybrid cloud is going to become much easier for businesses that can move beyond the thought that Cloud means deploying a stack of software
Ryan Harper
Take a look at @racemi as the tool towards achieving image migration http://www.racemi.co... - I don't think this is specific to VMware images...
Racemi - Cloud Migration Software - Server Migration Software
Racemi cloud migration software for server migrations between dissimilar physical, virtual, or cloud platforms. Application migration, server migration.
Boni AMD
@EricAquaronne i've read somewhere about "cloud ready application". Will it be discouraging the customer knowing that to move towards the cloud "is not that easy" ?
Dan Anderson
"Cloudfrastructure" seems to be a roadmap with many dimensions that is constantly changing and refining itself as new solutions and technologies are developed, tried, deployed multiple times, and results shared with the world
Niharika Trivedi
Can we trust our data to the cloud? Are we unsure about committing to the cloud?
Eric Aquaronne
the trust inthe cloud is the trust in the cloud provider: how do you turst your provider ?
Michael J Dorosh
I think we can trust is a much as we can just vanilla IT - you must be vigilant in the same ways. Look at the recent data leaks, most have been IT (HomeDepot, Target., ect)
John Furrier
Data trust is huge issue; it has to be tied directly back to onprem or security that is bulletproof; perimeter based security doesn't work in hybrid
Dan Anderson
@EricAquaronne ALWAYS one incident away from loss of that trust.
Eric Aquaronne
data trust : this is when you whant to know how your provider manages security and what storage he uses, and their High Availability tool
Kyle Wurgler
This is why I see customers first looking at trying non-critical or less data intensive workloads in the public cloud. i.e. build their confidence
Frank De Gilio
this is why the CIO will have a broker role - Understanding which Service providers to use is going to be critical
Paulo Carvao
And one cannot ignore regulatory issues that will drive on-prem / in-country making hybrid a must
Scott Firth
@pcarvao Agree regulation & compliance are important considerations reqarding where data should reside
Ryan Harper
In the UK at least I think Softlayer are looking to obtain ISO-270001 certification. That should make the platform more accesible for public sector projects and I'd hope would increase trust clients will place with #Softlayer cloud.
Jacqueline Woods
@degilio I think the CIO will be more than a broker, his integration across c-sutie will be key to deliver on business needs & outcomes compared to just brokering "IT services"
Niharika Trivedi
@JacWoods2020 Our new IBV study clearly describes it (based on a survey of 750 IT leaders - page #2): http://ibm.co/1qg0tY...
Ryan Harper
Whats the best resource (online guide, video how to) for the setup a Vyatta VPN from a Softlayer DC to a clients datacentre? #infrachat @IBMSmrtrCmptng
Ryan Harper
Whats the best resource (online guide, video how to) for the setup a Vyatta VPN from a Softlayer DC to a clients datacentre? #infrachat @IBMSmrtrCmptng
Eric Aquaronne
looks like you mean Vyatta from Softlayer ?
Ryan Harper
Yep Eric, exactly
Eric Aquaronne
use the softlayer chat help , they are excellent, or ring STG lab services :-)
Hema Reddy
- STG Lab Services is at @IBMSLST
Ryan Harper
@EricAquaronne Ok thanks. I assumed that information would of been publicly avaliable, but I'm sure the #SL team can point me in the right direction.
IBM Systems
What are the more likely use cases? Is it really bursting for capacity, or does connecting systems of record with systems of engagement have more interest?
Ron Kline
Although early discussion was around peak capacity and DR, the real value will come from connecting systems of record w/ systems of engagement, and with the idea of portability of applications. The infra really matters to get this right @IBMSmrtrCmptng
Eric Aquaronne
typical is to rent extra capacity so you can grow your business only 'renting' what you need
Michael J Dorosh
seeing geo location, i.e. get the app/data closer to the market/end user beginning to be a factor.
Eric Aquaronne
many companies are also looking at the cloud as a Disaster Recovery plan > where you switch to in case of
John Furrier
it's interesting this discussion point is tactical bc DR and other functions work well in hybrid ..it's the low hanging fruit use cases. Great place to start getting feet wet fat in deploying cloud
Ron Kline
Also Knowing the best place to process data is also key. Many large enterprises have a tremendous amount of data on the mainframe, & it makes more sense to do the analytics there, much faster than moving data across clouds, so hybrid makes@IBMSmrtrCmptng
John Furrier
these use cases also drive cultural change in the organization which is very important for #CxO level mgt to inject. Cloud transformation is also cultural issue
Paulo Carvao
Significant business value to be unleashed by connecting SoR and SoE... intersection of cloud, mobile and analytics
Michael J Dorosh
The culture change is huge - just look at the last 18 months
Frank De Gilio
Culture is very important for this - The CIO must become a broker as well as a technical guy to be successful
Scott Firth
@degilio Agree that successful organizations are asking the CIO to take on the role of service broker
Frank De Gilio
@pcarvao Definitely - This is the most exciting part of Hybrid cloud to me - It is the chance for IT to go from being a Cost center to a profit center
Stuart Miniman
@srf512 changing role of CIO is identifying what value IT adds and where to leverage outside services http://wikibon.org/b...
The Changing Role of the CIO [Infographic]
Posted by Stuart Miniman in CIO Perspectives, Cloud Computing, Wikibon on February 2, 2012
Scott Firth
@stu great infographic on the changing role of the CIO
IBM Systems
Next question! How big a role does data residency play in selecting a cloud and in determining the #hybridcloud strategy?
Frank De Gilio
Residency plays a huge role in your strategy. This is why cloudbursting doesn’t work the way people originally imagined. Moving data to computational resources is expensive and time consuming
Michael J Dorosh
This is huge - residency and economics will drive hybrid cloud adoption.
Eric Aquaronne
data links to privacy and in many countries you cannot more data outside the borders > this mean your cloud app is also in your contry
Ron Kline
It makes a LOT of difference for compliance or local law. Another aspect of this is where do you WANT your data. It may already reside in your transaction systems on prem making a hybrid environment the right choice@IBMSmrtrCmptng
Eric Aquaronne
typically banks / health sector have regualtions on data location
Ron Kline
@degilio Good point and one reason that integration of on prem and public is needed...where should the data be ?
Michael J Dorosh
This is like the old data hierarchy thought - data where it needs to be for security, compliance and access speed - on the most economic place.
Eric Aquaronne
another key factor on application+data location: response time (think abot geographies and their network)
Frank De Gilio
IT will be cool to see how companies tie the mobile technology to stuff that has to be managed locally - data residency is going to change over time
Paulo Carvao
#IBMResearch does pioneering work with micro clouds here... don't they?
Steve Roberts
This is critical as data movement and security can quickly become the bottleneck. IBM Aspera can help: http://cloud.asperas...
Aspera On Demand for SoftLayer - Aspera
Aspera On Demand unlocks the cloud’s unlimited computing and storage resources for big data applications by delivering high-speed transfers in, out and across the cloud.
Michael J Dorosh
Yes, the mobile play, and the need to get data as close as possible to the end user will drive a lot of this.
Boni AMD
How about the performance impact if you store the data locally and perform the compute part on public?
Ron Kline
It does depend, it may be faster to do the analytics ( compute ) near the data @IBMSmrtrCmptng
Eric Aquaronne
@boniamd as you design the solution, you'll need to define where data resides too, perf can be a factor if the network can be a bottleneck
Eric Aquaronne
for DATA analytics, always load the data where you compute > if cloud then all in cloud :)