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Does BI have a role against all the types of data that are natural for Hadoop? i.e. how useful is a pie-chart against clickstream, ad impressions or sensor events?
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not very ;) need different visualizations for time-series analysis to follow patterns of events
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Ben Werther I think you're underestimating what is possible here.
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John Furrier
Hadoop is limited from folks we talk to but a big part in certain use cases. small improvement in bus operations yields big value in revenue & business outcomes; faster dynamic BI is the answer; what google did for web pages someone need to do
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Very thought provoking question. Seems like BI is evolving so the answer to this might evolve too. Do you think?
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John Furrier
What google did for web pages someone needs to do for BI and DW enabling non IT people to be "the next Billy Beane" #moneyball for enterprises
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interesting BI vs. BA & the evolvement of #Storm I personally think that link analytics becomes increasingly relevant
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Sylvie Otten (Sollod www.emc.com/csc check out the evolving role of data http://www.emc.com/collateral/white-papers/ei-evolving-role-data-decision-making.pdf
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Ben Werther
I'm predicting a big topic at Hadoop World will be the difference between BI and Big Data Analytics. It will be a stark contrast.
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in-memory no-sql + analytics is becoming more interesting to BI than Hadoop
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Ben Werther That is the key. It is the difference between pretty pictures on the surface VS finding deep facts about the business.
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Dan Hushon agree, but does that speak to the deficiency of current state BI?
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John Furrier totally agree new sw will emerge fast in this area - big oppty imo
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Ben Werther I assumed you meant that in-memory + analytics is more important THAN BI to Hadoop.
In Sik Rhee ... it's a natural middle ground. hadoop is not as well suited for data exploration as it is for operationalizing insights after they've been discovered.
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I think that we are going to see a ton of link/graph building on hadoop to aid in analytic process... question is one of correlation vs. causality at end of day
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Jeff Frick Seems to always boil down to correlation vs causality. Some argue that an overwhelming correlation has the same actionable weight, almost a proxy for causality. Seems dangerous.
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Dan Hushon don't know that I'm there jeff, if you're trying to remediate better to treat the cause than the symptom