HWandSWTogether

Integrated Systems v. BYO
Join us to discuss the benefits of an integrated stack v. build your own w/multiple suppliers.
John Furrier
First Question for discussion: Garter has said that most organizations spend over 60% of their budget keeping the lights on and around 15% on innovation. Thoughts?
Phil Dunn
Is there a presentation you'll be presenting or just a discussion based on your questions?
John Furrier this is discussion open forum I'll post questions and feel free to post your own
Jeff Frick Why IronMan? Sure there's a story.
Jeff Frick
seems like a very high number
Oracle Hardware
There isn't a formal presentation. We'll just be discussing points of view and responding
Oracle Hardware
We also look forward to questions from the crowd
Crowd Captain
I think that scale out on commodity hardware is something that is gaining traction but it's not always optimized lots of innovation still needed in that market. Purpose built systems are winning with software driving value
Harish venkat
How can business innovate keeping this equation for IT resources? We have to re-balance this equation where we can free up resources that are used up for "Reactive, keeping the lights on" type of activities to "proactive and innovative"
Phil Dunn
So do you think that’s why everyone is looking to go to the cloud? To reduce OPEX?
Oracle Hardware Cloud is a means to an end to obtain agility at a low cost so you can quickly respond to changes in requirements, changes in customer attitude. Agility and responsiveness are the issues, not where the system resides.
Mohan Desai - cloud is part of most people's IT strategy but it doesn't replace integrated systems- both have their place in modern DC
Harish venkat
Here's a video that brings context to what we are discussing today.
Harish venkat
http://medianetwork.oracle.com/video/player/3092316277001
Oracle Systems: Together with Oracle Applications
Learn how running Oracle applications on Oracle systems can help you deliver maximum value to your customers and achieve dramatically better business results.
Oracle Hardware
Complexity is the enemy of the efficiency, insight and flexibility which is needed to be responsive to changing conditions. Simplifying IT puts you in position to shift your resources to more innovative efforts.
Dave Vellante
there's an IT labor problem - all that non-differentiated heavy lifting is killing IT organizations
Kate Islas
Is Gartner advising clients on how to create new/better KPIs to measure the impact of IT to the business? ie. beyond just typical OpEx (support, environmentals, admin)
Jeff Frick
Are there specific applications where the delta between an Integrated approach and BYO than others?
Jeff Frick
And what if BYO is BOB?
Jeff Frick Build your Own vs Best of Breed, & I don't mean the old MSFT Browser thing Bob. ;-)
Crowd Captain BYO = Build your own; and BoB = Best of Breed
John Furrier
I am seeing large enterprises going for purpose built. IBM sold their low end servers to Lenovo and focusing on optimized systems. Steve Mills validated that appliances (or purpose built) is the winning formula
Oracle Hardware
Integrated approach doesn't preclude best of breed but that is one of the points to look at if you consider an integrated approach
Carl ray
Gartner's "Ten Trends and Technologies to Impact IT" article talks about this trend, saying IT is getting too complex to be buying at the component level, and more companies are looking for vendors they can trust to do this integration.
Oracle Hardware
As far as applications, the areas that show the greatest potential are enterprise wide, mission critical like Financials, HR, Merchandising, etc.
Oracle Hardware
One of the drivers is that organizations have fixed resources of time as well as money but time is always finite
Mohan Desai
BOB is even better if it comes pre-integrated
Oracle Hardware
So if you can imagine the benefits of being able to time to your team. For example, what would your team do with an additional 4 hrs a week for each member of your staff
Oracle Hardware
Or, what would it mean if you could complete your supply chain plan in less than an hour than overnight. You can run it during the day and adjust to unforeseen changes
Howard Curzman
There are several areas where an integrated approach will drive unique and extended value due to the optimizations developed across each layer of the stack. OLTP, Batch, and In Memory workloads in particular.
Kate Islas
Any standard processes (GL, HR, etc) with big batch reports or heavy transactions. But even customers innovating custom java apps, see huge adv w/ with integrated DB or MW platform
John Furrier
Question for Oracle folks: So is the discussion about running Oracle applications on Oracle systems all about IT efficiency or are there other considerations?
Jeff Frick
https://twitter.com/JLOracle/status/439064061264035840
JLOracle
Interesting pdf from VLDB describing some of the more recent approaches to parallelism used by Oracle: http://t.co/CL9W6g4Jum
an hour ago
Quoted By @JeffFrick
Harish venkat
It has multiple effects, efficiency being one. Time to value is really big - there are too many external influence that is creating a sense of urgency to adapt. e.g. mobility, social, analytics
Oracle Hardware The University of Central Florida like to say they took their students and staff out of line by enabling them to go online. Look at what they’ve been able to make happen.
Oracle Hardware Colleges are competing with each other for the best students. The student experience is something that they can use social media and mobile to make their case for choosing their programs.
Harish venkat
Here's a video showcasing University of central Florida using Oracle SW and HW together to innovate their campus solution
Harish venkat
UCF Oracle Applications Together with Oracle Systems
Harish venkat
http://medianetwork.oracle.com/video/player/3059826738001
UCF Oracle Applications Together with Oracle Systems
The University of Central Florida gets better business results running Oracle PeopleSoft together with Oracle Systems.
Dave Vellante
Nearly 1/2 of CIOs are willing to risk lock-in for functional value (48%) - do ppl agree? http://wikibon.org/w/images/5/55/MultiHypervisorStrategyFigure1.png

Bob Bocchino
Agree. Human beings don’t like to change even when its clearly better for them to make a change but more try to take your organization to a better place. They stop spending time doing what someone else has done
Jeff Frick not to mention the whole "stopping for a minute to sharpen the saw" issues.
John Furrier
that is a great slide on #cio study #cxo
John Furrier
22000FT
Join #hwandswtogether to discuss benefits of integrated systems vs BYO or BOB #ibmpulse http://t.co/JDVxW6qT6l
13 minutes ago
Quoted By @furrier
John Furrier
CIOs and executives pushing for fast time to value want benefits in cost and top line growth what do you guys find is the business advantage of performance of oracle sw on oracle hw? vs scale out commodity hw
Oracle Hardware
The value includes performance but its only one part of the business benefit equation. Fastest processor or the fastest disks are only as effective as their ability to communicate. There are always going to be faster components.
Dave Vellante
Here's how Oracle DBAs spend their time and how a single managed entity impacts how they create value http://wikibon.org/wiki/v/Duplicating_Public_Cloud_Economics_for_Oracle_Database_Infrastructure
Oracle Hardware
Getting the components to work together in the most effective manner, including the software that runs on them, changes the way human processes work in an organization. That’s where value is delivered.
Oracle Hardware
For example, within finance, the processes required to close the books so you not only can accurately report your position but also so you can assess where you are before the period ends is a huge IT resource hog. Take currency conversions.
Dave Vellante
we've been working on this concept of a Single Managed Entity - here are the basics http://wikibon.org/w/images/4/45/CITopologies.png

Oracle Hardware
They took over 20 hours because of all the country books they had to consolidate. Running Oracle Financials on an Oracle Engineered systems reduced it to 4 minutes. If nothing else changed, that cuts a day out of the process.
Dave Vellante
the further up the stack you go, the greater the value (and the greater the lock-in risk)l - CIOs need to weigh that value / risk equation
Oracle Hardware Vendor lock-in is an artificial fear because everyone is locked in at some point. No one changes their ERP system without a major event like M&A. Few companies choose to change their storage vendor because it’s easier to keep adding on.
Harish venkat
Imagine if you can have real time visibility into profitability as you are taking orders over the phone - profitability within 2 hours of a flight taking off, quick impact for costing if a component pricing changes
Harish venkat
Running Oracle SW on HW enables you to solve complex business problems which provides direct impact on top and bottom line for business
Jeff Frick
What are the top considerations when weighing the question, Oracle on Oracle or BoB?
Jeff Frick

Most likely for new app installation, or HW refresh?
What's the Crowd's experience?
Howard Curzman
From the business perspective: Time to value, ability to shift maintenance spend to delivering new business needs. For IT: lower costs, simplified management, reduced risk are a few.
Dave Vellante
1/ What's my service level requirement,2/ what's the business case for integration, 3/ how much do I want my infr. to support other apps (ie non-oracle)
Jeff Frick -> I imagine some BYO scenarios are SLA Free
Jeff Frick
Is the Data Center considered part of the Oracle Stack?
https://twitter.com/JRSIV81/status/439088448633589760 -> #NewNews
JRSIV81
Oracle Event: Building a Modern Data Center (@ Newark Liberty International Airport Marriott) http://t.co/CbAIZLLqMM
a minute ago
Quoted By @JeffFrick
Oracle Hardware
What are the advantages when storage, database, and apps are co-engineered together?
Oracle Hardware
Does such integration matter when evaluating storage systems? Does it deliver any real-world performance or efficiency benefits?
Rey Perez
From a pure CAPEX perspective engineered systems can deliver a 40% cost reduction without compression benefits.
Howard Curzman
One of the most transformative business advantages is the ability to have on demand business analytics / insight for workloads that traditionally ran overnight.
Mohan Desai
easier to deploy, easier to manage and easier to support
Kate Islas
The integrated storage/DB is one of biggest advantage. Many perf and interoperability problems stem from server to external storage connectivity - especially scaling data growth
Kelvin Gee
The best advantage of engineered systems is increased reliability and ease of maintenance because supposedly all the problems of stack integration have already been worked out by one vendor. Once you have that you can start to fine tune.
Kelvin Gee
Commodity solutions are just that. They offer flexibility & lower cost at the expense of higher performance. Commodity will always mean lowest common denominator. You will never equal the perf. of a complete "stack engineered" solution.