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Bottlenecks in DevOps processes can inhibit productive end-to-end flow from the time business kicks off an initiative until it is delivered to customers. What do you think is your #1 bottleneck today?

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Rosalind Radcliffe
What's your reaction to obtaining dev and test environments being so low. It seems to be real problem within many shops.
Rich Hintz
Solved by Vagrant for the Linux env
Chris Lazzaro
It used to be a problem for us, but now we are doing so much in Bluemix is easy to get new env's up.
Eric Minick
I rad that as a maturity thing. Need decent testing and deployment. Then environment counts become the bottleneck.
Paul Steel
I'm shocked, I would have thought that was going to be big
alan shimel
I think those problems are secondary to people
Eric Minick
@lazzarochris Good point. With cloud platforms providing environments more cheaply, the more advanced are likely already there.
Ian M. Clayton
do you regard QA as outside of test env or fringe?
Bas Pluim
Lack of environments definitely a problem...but that's largely caused by teams not working in tandem
Jayne Groll
I would have thought this would have been resolved by now. Investment in testing is critical.
Mustafa Kapadia
I agree, for our client it is the biggest bottleneck
Rich Hintz
@ianclayton QA is old thinking. It should be integrated in Dev.
Keith Townsend #CTODose
every time I've introduced ideas to improve dev/test environment delivery the response has been meh. Ramping up resources to do the work is normally a bigger challenge.
Mustafa Kapadia
and where many start their journet
Paul Steel
@LazzaroChris Bluemix is a great tool, what are the primary parts you are using?
Rosalind Radcliffe
Is it that people have transitioned to more automation. It still seems to be a big problem with Systems of Record
Padma
With the use of Bluemix this issue can be resolved quickly.
Rich Hintz
Well, as a dev, you can't spin up a replica piod environment on a mainframe
Keith Townsend #CTODose
I've found Dev/Test for systems of record are relatively static. I'm in healthcare so that may be a factor. The need for data refresh isn't a consideration.
Sanjeev Sharma
Pop Quiz: If you have a 2 week Sprint, but it takes 3 weeks to get a new test env, how long is your Sprint?
alan shimel
@rjhintz i wonder even in Linux what vagrant usage is % wise?
Daniel Berg
if you move to the cloud it becomes #SelfService
Rosalind Radcliffe
you can spin up a new z system with RD&T , z/OS running on Intel Linux this lets all teams work in the same way.
Ian M. Clayton
@rjhintz ouch QA in Dev - fox in hen house ! I've been a victim of that idea :-) unless u have some form of fire wall
Rich Hintz
@ashimmy Compared to what? How else do you spin up a replica environment?
Daniel Berg
the challenge is knowing that you have a problem once you have deployed a change #ProblemsThatTrulyMatter
Robert Reeves
@sd_architect Ha! Do the same exercise for your Database changes! We had a customer that when from 48hrs per change to 2hrs. Gave 'em back a whole Sprint at the end of the year.
Rich Hintz
@ianclayton firewall equates to silo in my experience.
Sanjeev Sharma
@CTOAdvisor Yes, but environment availability and contention is still an issue
Eric Minick
@ianclayton if Dev also carries the pager, then actual quality starts to matter a whole lot more.
Chris Lazzaro
@LifeOnMobile We run the DevOps Method site on Bluemix: https://www.ibm.com/... - easy to setup multiple instances in diff datacenters
Daniel Berg
Docker, Docker, Docker :)
Rich Hintz
@dancberg Not sure I understand. This would be "solved" by unit and functional test
Keith Townsend #CTODose
@sd_architect not in my environment. We have dedicated lanscapes from Sandbox>Prod. Include test, dev, N+1 and QA. If we were under financial pressure that would change.
Tony Bradley
-- Seems like Dev / test environment should be easy with cloud, virtualization and microservices. #IBMInterConnect
Ian M. Clayton
@rjhintz silos = friction of course dev tests - but discrete independent test vital - taco of cost me a divorce is previous life
Chris Lazzaro
@EricMinick Yes, a lot of teams first start trying Cloud just because they have trouble getting VM's from their IT team. IaaS often first, with PaaS soon after.
Rosalind Radcliffe
To use the test environments you need good automated testing, and test data management as well.
Rich Hintz
@ianclayton this seems to be at odds with test driven development
Ian M. Clayton
@rjhintz nope - I'm all for test drive dev... u tagged me on QA being old fashioned - someone has to be responsible for end quality
Rich Hintz
@ianclayton the point is that the aggregate team, what we call loosely devops is responsible for quality
Ian M. Clayton
@rjhintz well that explains the quality of some apps I download, then delete cos of battery drain and resource consumption
alan shimel
What do you think is next for #
DevOps?
alan shimel
Will it still be called DevOps in 3-5 years
Saleem Padani
There will still be bottlenecks maybe that won't be all human related :-)
Tony Bradley
-- Purely from a marketing perspective--vendors will come up with new buzzwords. #IBMInterConnect
alan shimel
Buzzwords, shmuzzwords, will function chage?
Tony Bradley
-- from a technical perspective, I think AI and machine learning will change what we think of as "DevOps" today #IBMInterConnect
Daniel Berg
focus is shifting to cloud and "always on" delivery #ExpectFailuresAndRecovery
Rosalind Radcliffe
I don't think we will use the same name but people won't be finished with their transition yet. I am hoping people don't stop part way
Saleem Padani
Robots will automatically scan your code and open defects and call your home phone while you are still in bed?
Robert Wen
I'm waiting for the hype to end. IMHO DevOps has simply meant they found the release managers/ config. mgmt people.
zster
How to leverage DevOps in the cognitive, Internet of Things and Blockchain world.
Tony Bradley
-- Microservices and AI will minimize or eliminate the "Ops" side of the "DevOps" equation. #IBMInterConnect
alan shimel
Robert, I think there is more to it then relase managers
Daniel Berg
continuous delivery remains important but having much better cloud problem determination and analytics become more important.
alan shimel
I think the cultural element + tools has changed the game
John Furrier
#devops will power & revenue growth for #bigdata and apps - data driven apps need devops
Jayne Groll
IT - we love our frameworks. Not sure what it will be called, but it will be called something #IBMInterConnect
Daniel Berg
correct...once delivered you need to operate, scale, and recover from attacks
#SurvivingCloud
Robert Wen
I think so too. But that's if you want to jump into the culture-changing, "hard" DevOps.
Robert Wen
"easy" DevOps is for companies to rebrand the release managers and config mgmt people
Eric Minick
There may be less change than we expect. Once agile reached Scrum, it became less crazy. I think DevOps is getting there and adoption will be a journey.
Ian M. Clayton
Biz-Dev-Ops-realOps
alan shimel
Ian, I like the idea of including the Biz, that is the ultimate equalizer
alan shimel
@ianclayton Ian, I like the idea of including the Biz, that is the ultimate equalizer
Eric Minick
@ianclayton more and more Sec interwoven in there too
Mustafa Kapadia
robots doing value stream mapping excercises :)
Rich Hintz
@GetTechSpective Why would this be the case? Microservices still need to be deployed on an infrastructure? And what would AI bring to the solution?
Tony Bradley
@rjhintz -- The infrastructure itself can be increasingly automated and AI can eventually respond and adapt as the "Ops" role. #IBMInterConnect
Tony Bradley
@rjhintz -- Ops role will evolve--focus more on resiliency and performance and less on configuration and infrastructure. #IBMInterConnect
Rich Hintz
@GetTechSpective It seems to me that resilience and performance depend on configuration/infra, but maybe I'm missing the point
Jayashree Venugopala
I think people get the word Agility more than DevOps. How about Agile Development?