HybridCloudChat

a mix of local resources and resources externally, like Amazon or the @openlinelineBV Cloud

It's not just public + private, is it?

- good question to start with - is it more than just combining private and public cloud?

@suzyspaatz hybrid = public + private made transparent by the management platform

@suzyspaatz Well, I'm by far an expert, but what else is there? private and public, there's nothing in between, right?

@vGazza like ViPR for example?

@50mu @EMCViPR Controller is a great example of a platform for hybrid services

True hybrid means controlling your workloads, storage & network resources so it limits risk and increase productivity

@50mu we need to do what @EMCViPR does for storage to compute and network as well

@50mu and compose resources for a hybrid services catalog

hybrid also implies a new role for IT people & skills

@vGazza yeah, but is there some sort of standard yet? One that all vendors approve of and can use amongst eachother?

@barbrobidoux isn't that where @EMCWorld comes into play? Over there they seem to want us to transform to the next level ;)

@50mu there are choices but not a single answer to this question

must involve either using or being a broker. Need to get mobility between clouds!

I visited a SDDC conference in '14 in Si valley during #SFD5 with #TFD and the conclusion was that standardization is something that needs to be worked on and so far it's been quiet. At least, it seems quiet. Or have there been new developments?

For true hybrid cloud, you need all the right ingredients: https://twitter.com/...

@50mu one emerging trend is to abstract the Hybrid Cloud on application services level

@vGazza I was afraid of that. It seems the software defined layers don't have a standard yet. How far are the developers in creating these layers so they become interchangable?

@50mu not far. #PaaS is making many different infrastructure clouds interoperate.

@50mu think @CloudFoundry for instance. It runs on multiple different Cloud platforms. Public and Private.

@50mu there were cool announcements yesterday related to @PivotalCF. Check them out.

@50mu with @PivotalCF same code runs on @VMwarevSphere @OpenStack @AWScloud and @vCloud

@vGazza and that does include all layers like SDN, SDS, SDC?

@50mu #PaaS simplifies virtual resources consumption but it builds over the #SDDC

@vGazza I'd love to see a demo on how that works. I don't have much time atm to set something up myself, but building an hybrid cloud @EMCWorld is something that I'd like to see. Will that be in a vlab then?

@50mu take a look at this hybrid deployment demo of @cloudfoundry https://youtu.be/f2C...

@50mu there will be many events on @EMCWorld around #DevOps and #Cloud automation

@50mu check the #DevOps agenda inside @EMCWorld that @virtualswede is putting together with @EMCCode

often it is easier than first expected as you can leverage pre-built templates.

Security, data control, privacy & contractual exit strategies must be high on most peoples lists? @dinkoeror

the landscape in the customers, with many complex infrastructre silos and the public cloud landscape

The magic and the simplicity that the Hybrid Cloud drives, is turning the everyday and repeatable tasks that IT does, and exposing them to users to so they can do it themselves.

From our perspective it's the fact that the 'big picture' comes secondary to day to day application/infrastructure priorities. HC strategy needs to wait for a major refresh.

building privat cloud first to opetimize the journey

IMHO it is an IT transformation initiative and it is very cross industry

In every industry where there are information workers, or large data reserves. People are driving the hybrid cloud revolution

a combination where cost pressure and innovation with new apps collide

that's a lot of fancy words. I believe that for now it's a service provider driven technology. Individuals and companies like easy access and creation of new VMs and other resources, like for example a temporary webserver. You pay for 6 months.

Early adopters are those that are more agile who can see benefits & span multiple industries. Regulated industries are slower adopters for obvious reasons

is also a good video on the Financial Times:

here's some Wikibon data on cloud adoption https://www.crowdcha...

I think those that need a faster time to market will be the first people will look to migrate if you don't have any pre primed to launch

Which apps to migrate may need to be assessed by a compliance & risk team to ensure the right data is controlled by the right policies.

Deploy everything, these days there aren't any barriers (only benefits) to deploying to a Cloud based environment. Be that, private, public, or (of course) hybrid.Not all systems and workloads are suitable currently to all types of Cloud however.

Use a methodology/service to assign a score to each Business Application, highlighting the effort required to migrate or transform the application for the hybrid cloud.

Use this score to prioritise which apps to move first!

@suzyspaatz start by assessing the workloads and define suitability and optimal placement, benefits and savings.

all, the question is when, may apps are already there, wtith InfoArchive you can also put legacy apps into the hybrid cloud. I would recommend to engage EMC global services for the journey

@mpleier good call on #InfoArchive value for application lifecycle management

sounds like a job for #Adaptivity !