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I would agree for those workloads appropriate for public cloud. However, most enterprise workloads are not appropriate for public cloud today.

- who has the advantage? the pure play public cloud (aka amazon) or the guys who really understand enterprise

@dvellante I strongly say those that understand enterprise have the long-term advantage.

@tcrawford help tease this out for us some more. Agree that the advice isn't to take everything that you have now and push it to the cloud, but changing apps takes a long time. How do CIOs manage the app portfolio?

Post will be up on @GigaomResearch later today. :)

AWS says that everything should go to the public cloud today. As we stated, hybrid is where users are today (and it is not a "halfway house")

There is a larger potential for the broader enterprise app portfolio. But AWS only services a smaller part of it.

Based on recent research, broad use of apps in public cloud is actually far more costly than the alternatives. Hence the need to be surgical in its use.

Spoiler Alert: Public cloud may actually be more expensive that many alternatives. Depends on the workload.

Problem is those that "understand" enterprise, understand yesterday's enterprise

@madgreek65 Unfortunately, 'yesterdays' enterprise is today's enterprise. #reality

Agree with Tim. "Yesterday's enterprise" comment is unnecessarily dismissive.

For some enterprises

c-suite wants the whole of IT to be either in the cloud or cloud-like - IT imo is stepping up with a good mix of ease of use, speed and governance/compliance

Security imo is a wash - but it's complying with the edicts of the co that is difficult w/ cloud

Most ppl are in the far right box. But c-level (outside of the #CIO) are in the far left.

@dvellante More to the point, security for cloud is completely misunderstood and misused.

@tcrawford Yeah the corner suite just wants to shove it out but the CIOs role is to cover the CEOs A**

Today IBM said that they are building out location across the globe to be local (rather than fewer Mega DCs), this helps with governance challenges

@dvellante IMHO: There is still a massive disconnect between #CIO & rest of c-suite.

@tcrawford couldn't agree more - is it a trust issue? or is the c-suite clueless? or is the CIO hanging on to the past?

via @PlatenReport [IBM] will go broke trying to execute such as build-out strategy. They need to concentrate on the networking and SDx capabilities.

One of the concerns is IBM's mixed messaging on the value of #cloud.

Would love to learn more about the new OpenStack as a Service. Love that more companies are adopting that methodology of service.

My notes on IBM "Enterprise Containers": based on Open @docker ; built service natively (no VM required), automate IP address creation; private repositories; composability of services to container

We need to stop talking about #cloud value and talk about how to increase adoption!

It's not clear where their #OpenStack as a service comes from. SoftLayer? Product?

@blueboxjesse Great for new workloads. Presents challenges for existing workloads.

Still spending a lot of time talking about the beauty of the highway. But we're forgetting about the onramps.

I like that IBM is working to bring Docker and OpenStack to the enterprise - today these are in the dev world and not sure how the two come together

It's only day 1, but IBM is doing a good job of skimming the surface of #cloud. Would like to see more detail/ engagement.

what do you hear from CIOs about IBM's #cloud strategy?

I don't. SoftLayer presents a great opportunity. However, too quiet.

From our survey - top 3 clouds are still Azure, AWS and Google. IBM gets good marks from those that use Softlayer, and IBM's cloud revenue has strong growth http://www.businessc...

I hear more about BlueMix and all of the analytics, agree that IaaS (or hosted private cloud) is quiet...

SoftLayer is a hidden gem for IBM. Lots of opportunity. But they need to change it up.

@stu I also hear more about #BlueMix and #Watson than SoftLayer.

I'm impressed by what Azure is doing in the market - do you agree?

@dvellante I agree Dave! Azure is starting to garner increased attention. Most by a halo effect of 365.

@stu WRT SoftLayer, is the applicability and engagement that is missing.

Overall, users of public cloud were happy with providers; all vendors averaged satisfaction ratings of more than 4 out of 5. IBM had the top scores with Microsoft Azure a close second.

Trust & Reliability are key to public cloud, but there's the perception it is cheap.

via @madgreek65 "Can be cheap if architected correctly and managed efficiently. Other wise its like leaving the lights and TV on all day"

via @ROIdude "@tcrawford re: Costly Cloud. I did an analysis recently for a client of internal Nutanix vs. Azure. Twice the performance at 1/4th the cost"

Cloud economics is a nuanced debate - renting (functionality gets added and price goes down) vs buying (and the challenges that go with owning something for X years)

Many of the challenges with buying can be altered when you add in the notion of remote management.

@roidude A recent analysis I did showed 4x for public cloud. But again, applicability is the key here.

Looks like the writing is on the wall but security and compliance remain the lynchpin

Security/ Compliance is a common wet blanket that is leveraged too broadly. Need to be more surgical in the application of it.

"Public cloud has more lock in risk that on-prem infrastructure." Amazon as the new Oracle?