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Next-Gen Health Care IT
JOIN US: This is a chat-based conversation about advancements in next-generation health-care IT, including new collaboration tools, AI and telemedicine.
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#eweekchatTrends in Data OrchestrationJOIN US: This is a chat-based conversation about how batch processing, while still being used pretty extensively, is nonetheless being eclipsed by newer methods of making data work inside IT systems.
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#eweekchatThe Home as Enterprise BranchJOIN US: This is a chat-based conversation about COVID-mandated changes in the workplace, including security, networking, collaboration tools--and working far too much using Zoom and Webex.
Chris Preimesberger
Q6: What can health care IT do in the present time to better recognize another pandemic before it happens?
Sanjeev Agrawal
A6: Stopping viruses or their mutation won't be easy but certainly responding to any such outbreak and containing it can be facilitated with tech like Digital epidemiological surveillance and rapid case identification
Sanjeev Agrawal
A6: Also hoping this pandemic pushes rapid population level vaccine deployment and population level home testing (or even water effluent testing programs)
Mike Seegel
I think the ability to gather data (as we were discussing with handhelds) can help predict overall trends that are happening.
Sanjeev Agrawal
With mutations - being quickly track and trace the spread of a mutation and map the vaccine that will be most effective against the variant and then deploy it before the variant becomes the dominant strain (like we do with the flu)
Mike Seegel
The gathering of data is only the start; what do you do with the data next? Metrics, actionable reporting and the like will translate the data into useful information.
Mike Seegel
@saagrawa It would be ideal if we could share data like this, but the problem is there are issues with sharing data (geopolitical, HIPAA regulations, GDPR, etc.) that prevents a lot of sharing data.
Kenya Smith
Q6. Health IT can develop analytic dashboards to make it easier to analyze data and identify trends.
Mike Seegel
@KenyaSmith_NC That's a perfect way to get the data and be able to make better decisions for your organization, and the patient.
Chris Preimesberger
Last question coming up, Q6 ... before we ask for some concluding comments ...
Chris Preimesberger
Q5: How do you believe telemedicine is going to continue to develop? What will we be able to do in the future that we don't do now?
Sanjeev Agrawal
A5: Personally I think we will settle into a hybrid world where some demand will be shunted to Telemedicine but it's hard to replace for example some Oncology appointments in person
Sanjeev Agrawal
A5: However second opinions, skin conditions, other less "I need to see / touch, examine the patient" conditions can move far more effectively online. Maybe with imaging that can be read online we could do even more.
Sanjeev Agrawal
A5: And if Michio Kaku is right and we all walk around with a hand held $100 MRI machine maybe we can do everything online!!! :)
Mike Seegel
Q5: Sadly, I think telemedicine is starting to put the onus of diagnosis on the patient. In other industries, such as food, being able to customize your order the way you want can be beneficial. Requiring the patients to do more is problematic.
Chris Preimesberger
Good point, Mike. Telemedicine is a two-interaction; ordering takeout is one-way. Big difference
Aditya Bansod
A5: I've been thinking a lot recently with telehealth in the context of health maintenance. as remote monitoring tools (like CGMs, etc) continue to get better, appts with diabetic educators, A1c checkins, etc will get even more valuable as a remote capability
Mike Seegel
@saagrawa A5: I agree some exciting innovations are coming, but I think it might actually degrade our level of healthcare. I could be wrong, as perhaps medical professionals could maybe focus on higher level tasks than before.
Sanjeev Agrawal
A5: To @adityabansod's point - all these watches and devices we wear can be really quite helpful for maintenance, a form of virtual health checkups
Aditya Bansod
A5: I think one major innovation that will happen in remote healthcare (broader context than just telehealth) will be as continuous glucose monitors become the standard instead of finger pricks. once we solve the mountain of data they generate, it'll be a huge step
Kenya Smith
A5. I see an expansion of telemedicine in more acute settings. i.e ICU
Chris Preimesberger
How so, Kenya? Can you offer a little more detail?
Chris Preimesberger
Q5 on the way ...
Chris Preimesberger
Q4: How best can IT best provide completely clean health-care data to practitioners on a real-time basis?
Aditya Bansod
A4 LOL this reminds of me of the XKCD comic: there are 15 competing standards. we need one universal standard! ... how there are 16 competing standards.

https://xkcd.com/927/
https://xkcd.com/927/
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Standards
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Sanjeev Agrawal
A4 I agree with @adityabansod and am hopeful FHIR will be adopted more broadly and extended in it's definitions
Mike Seegel
A4: Good question Chris! The first question IT needs to ask with what problem am I trying to solve? You need to know what risk that you're trying to address first. Developing or purchasing software without a clear path creates more problems than it solves.
Sanjeev Agrawal
A4: also hopeful that walled gardens will be less so - reading and writing to multiple systems with a common framework would make life so much easier for everyone for sure. Seems like a "tooth fairy" like concept at this point though
Mike Seegel
A4: Once you know what risk you're addressing, then you can target what data you actually need from the system. The best way is to start with actionable metrics, such as the amount of vulnerabilities remediated within 30 days, over a span of a year.
Aditya Bansod
A4 I really want to believe that FHIR is going to be as close as we get to one solution for the universe, but having now implemented 80+ EHRs @lumahealthhq and implementing all the major EHR's FHIR implementations ...
Mike Seegel
Then, you can develop or acquire the system that best suits your reporting needs. Having a clear project management path normally helps problems of purchasing systems that don't interoperate, and ending up with a bigger problem then you started with.
Aditya Bansod
A4 ... we end up having a distinct FHIR implementation per EHR. And on top of that, there are ~3 versions of FHIR in the wild. so i'd say it's "better" than where we were 5 years ago but it's not great by any means in terms of getting access to clean or real time data.
Chris Preimesberger
Q4 coming up ...
Chris Preimesberger
I'd like to invite each of our guest experts to give us a high-level overview of what their companies offers here in this sector. Go for it!
Sanjeev Agrawal
@LeanTaaS we enable hospitals to do more with less - see more patients at lower cost with less wait by improving the utilization of their existing assets
Sanjeev Agrawal
We do this by matching supply and demand of these assets (both of which are stochastic by nature) in a much more mathematically precise way than EHRs can
Aditya Bansod
thanks @editingwhiz! we @lumahealthhq provide a full EHR-integrated platform to help engage, communicate, guide, and retain patients at all points of their care journey. needing care is hard, getting access to care shouldn't be.
Mike Seegel
Schellman offers a wide range of compliance audits and assessments, such as HITRUST, HIPAA assessments, SOC 1 & 2, ISO (many varieties), CMMC and the like. If you need IT Compliance, we most likely have what you're looking for!
Chris Preimesberger
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Chris Preimesberger
Q3: Where do you see the most progress in overall development of health care software and services?
Sanjeev Agrawal
A3: Grading healthcare on a curve, we’ve made relatively great technology leaps in the last decade with EMR adoption. Thankfully we don’t use faxes any more (or less anyways) but we are still 30 years behind where airlines, transportation, package delivery, retail ar
Sanjeev Agrawal
A3: EMRs are very good databases for collecting health data, but not great for understanding data / developing cures or optimizing throughput
Aditya Bansod
A3: few key areas here:

1. Physician Burn Out -- health IT caused caused it and now we have to fix it. We've made great strides in terms of data capture but for the benefit of whom?
Sanjeev Agrawal
What's exciting is the equivalent of what SalesForce or Workday have done on top of SAP or Oracle and that's starting to happen - diagnostic imaging, revenue cycle, asset optimization, clinical workflow optimization
Chris Preimesberger
It's amazing faxes are still being used every day somewhere in business. Yes, they have their physical form value, but still ... ;-)
Aditya Bansod
A3:

2. Patients As Their Own Champions -- new regulatory frameworks and consumer apps (e.g. Apple Health / etc) are putting patients in to the drivers seat of their own HC and the overall HC software stack is struggling to keep up as patients demand more access.
Sanjeev Agrawal
A3: The biggest roadblocks are still the "sacred cows" in adopting software based tools
Mike Seegel
@adityabansod A3: I agree Aditya. I find that my clients are able to generate massive amounts of very good data; but most just accumulate it and do nothing with it. It's those that develop actionable metrics around the data that find success.
Aditya Bansod
A3:

3. The Whole Patient Journey -- having the 360 degree view of what's happening for a patient can help better clinical decision making and help the patient be their own champion. There's a lot to unpack here we have a lot of interop-related questions yet to solve
Mike Seegel
@MikeSeegel When doing HITRUST assessments, HITRUST forces my clients to perform actions on the data they get, such as reviewing unauthorized record view activity, or attempted brute force attacks. They have to do something with the data they get.
Sanjeev Agrawal
A3: Agree @adityabansod - parsing through the data is the hardest part.. it's 80% of all data science
Aditya Bansod
@saagrawa @mikeseegel signal to noise ratio is healthcare is just insane -- it's sorta back to to @saagrawa list from Q1 of how sift/sort thru it all where there are distinct audiences (both clinical facing and patient facing -- but also financial facing)
Sanjeev Agrawal
A3: Yep - starting with narrow "business problems" and going deep in areas with value is the only way we have found. Else you end up trying to create magic potion like IBM Watson and Haven and it doesn't quite work.
Kenya Smith
A3. EMR adoption and interoperability. Allowing patients to access and share their health records across providers.
Chris Preimesberger
Thank you, Kenya, for joining us!
Aditya Bansod
A2: patient risk a huge area where I agree with what @saagrawa is saying -- that EHR data is under utilized. Even basic cohorting around known either lifestyle or hereditary risk factors to a patient health is a huge step that most health systems need to take.