CL2025

Our connected world in 2025
Join us for a lively debate on Feb 11th 3pm GMT (chat opens 1h early)
GadgetsBoy
Talking about the benefits, I think it will speed up a lot of processes, especially in health care, emergency services and more.
John Furrier
this is a great thread; healthcare is so perfect for this trend; tons of value to people and their communities
Xavier Larduinat
Agree. Healthcare is the next big thing... with driverless cars
John Furrier
this huge benefit my be slowed down by data regulation; so is the innovation bottom up or top down? This is the data dilemma
Tom Cheesewright
@furrier It will be enforced bottom up as suggested earlier. Innovation will always disrupt.
John Furrier
@xlarduinat I'm not sold on driverless cars yet great R&D but how fast do you think that would happen in todays' regulated world? It's also an issue with data not truly real time
Tom Cheesewright
@bookofthefuture Occasionally ideas that are too outlandish will be squashed but some will succeed
Tom Cheesewright
@furrier Plenty of on board processing now for driverless. US Navy decided robots were better at flying planes 50 years ago. They're definitely ready to drive cars.
Tom Cheesewright
I'm really interested in the low-cost collection of useful data - looked at a project previously cross referencing housing quality with healthcare interactions
John Furrier
@bookofthefuture thanks Tom I missed the earlier comment. agree and hopeful
mkube
Absolutely! #mHealth is a key area where the "things" in #IoT meet people, e.g. #AmbientAssistedLiving
Dan Kaplan
@bookofthefuture Innovation doesn't always wins. The wrong regulations or institutions will crush it.
Crowd Captain
@dankaplan Agree innovation is often killed by bad policy. Data must be free
GadgetsBoy
Also imagine a world where with IoT, emergency services can connect to a car involved in an accident, assess the severity, use the data to already notify the capable doctor and best mode of transport before they even get there.
Tom Cheesewright
@dankaplan They will crush some but usually the ones people find unappealing anyway. And reg power seems to be declining - see Moises Naim
Helen Keegan
I'm seeing a trend towards wellness (fitbit, coaching apps) which is less regulated. The medical stuff will come. Too important not to. And we already know that AI can make better diagnoses than doctors.
GadgetsBoy
@technokitten Even AI is fed information and data by humans tho right?
mkube
@mkube My tweet was shortened at a very unfortunate position. What I really meant: #AmbientAssistedLiving :-)
Pierre Metivier
This is what EU eCall alert service should be/will be.
Tom Cheesewright
There's an interesting combination of the two - computer+human always wins at chess
John Furrier
That is some fine QoS capability with real value
Helen Keegan
Not necessarily. Radiology uses AI and spots things humans cannot.
GadgetsBoy
@technokitten Interesting, would you say for AI to spot those things humans can't, it's just a matter of being able to process data and cross analyse data better than humans can? Rather than something AI just solves like that.
Dan Kaplan
@bookofthefuture Regulatory power (and innovation) seems to wax and wane in relations to the dominant political culture. When people are afraid or the power structure centralizes...
Helen Keegan
At the moment the computer has more data to hand & can process instantaneously. It's also building on knowledge each time. But that's now. In 2025?
mkube
Will we need to justify if we drive a car ourselves and not let the car drive itself?
GadgetsBoy
@technokitten very true, think by 2025, it will move to predicting and preventing issues before it occurs
Helen Keegan
Also, the computer is getting data input from machines & humans. And probably sensors in the future too.
Pierre Metivier
@technokitten Usual 2001 Space Odyssey reference
GadgetsBoy
@mkube that's such an interesting point. Like having to provide a rational as why you are driving a car by yourself to the police
Pierre Metivier
@technokitten Personal view - open road driverlesscar won't be ready by 2025, not mentioning insurance issues which are huge and not handle yet.
Helen Keegan
hmmm, yes. Except the 'worried well' is a thing and it wastes quite a lot of time and resource. It can also cause concern unnecessarily. There are cases where it's good to know and some we don't need to know.
Helen Keegan
@PierreMetivier the insurance part is fixable as it drives down the cost of insurance. The problem with driverless cars are cars with drivers rather than the other way around.
Pierre Metivier
@technokitten True of course, and pedestrians and cyclists and wild animals and schools in city .... I mentioned "open roads" / streets. POCs are easy.
Helen Keegan
@PierreMetivier the cars can deal with pedestrians, animals and cyclists better than a human driver can.
Pierre Metivier
@technokitten Not yet but yes, at one point, they will. And again, all these non automatic living entities will stay on the road/streets for a LONG time.
Kristen Nicole
@furrier I think this is an area where regulation will be forced to act quicker than other areas being advanced rapidly with connected technology, due to the inherent risks involved with driving and the emotional duress of bad consequences
Xavier Larduinat
5G low latency around 1ms means that when a car drives at 60mph, the car moves about 1inch distance. That means super-fast reaction to any event detected by a sensor.
Xavier Larduinat
typical human (driver) reaction would be tens of meters at 60mph
mkube
5G features like ultra-low latency and P2P comms can enable entirely new applications, e.g. V2V / V2X
John Furrier
what do you think 1ms is good enough for today? in terms of practitioners out there looking at viability for software apps?
Xavier Larduinat
1ms is about 100x better than today's 4G latency. That's a step forward!
Frederic Martinent
What do you think about Virtual Reality and Augmented Reality? Was quite impressed by Google Cardboard and the price/quality ratio is really interesting
Tom Cheesewright
VR is still problematic - most people seem to be sick after ~7 minutes - I think AR much more interesting
Tom Cheesewright
Obligatory William Gibson reference - Spook Country well worth a read on this
Helen Keegan
@bookofthefuture Retail is doing a lot of experimentation with both AR & VR. Check out @evapascoe for more http://evapascoe.com She's brilliant in this area.
Xavier Larduinat
I believe a all new range of uses cases will emerge with Augmented Reality technolog
Pierre Metivier
@bookofthefuture Pretty much all of Gibson and P.K. Dick on these topics.
Xavier Larduinat
@bookofthefuture 1ms latency means faster interactions than what the human body can handle. No wonder why VR can make people sick :-)
Frederic Martinent
@technokitten Interesting, also some virtual test drives for cards
Frederic Martinent
@technokitten Even if there drivers will no longer be needed soon :-)