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We'll be discussing the topic "IaaS and the enterprise: Past, Present & Future."
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John Furrier
Q5: How will open standards (like @OpenStack) continue to shape #IaaS? What about the API debates?
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Dormain Drewitz
There are industry standards, and there are de facto standards... ;)
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Mike Miller
Openstack vs AWS is Android vs iOS, part deux. Amazon vs the world. OpenStack enables seamless private/public cloud spillover.
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Michael Fork
They help to standardize and consolidate workloads around specific APIs, simplifying compatibility and bringing closer to portability. However, still have issues around differing implementations - one NIC vs two, different HDD structures, etc.
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Crowd Captain
What about software is it ready for prime time in Openstack
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SoftLayer
Open standards and platforms like OpenStack and CloudStack further abstract the nuts and bolts of infrastructure from customers. In the past, developers would code an application to servers with specific hardware components. Not so anymore.
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SoftLayer
Open standards allow developers to code an application to a vendor-agnostic framework, so those applications can be much more flexible when it comes to the underlying hardware.
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Dormain Drewitz
#AWS is currently the de facto standard... but industry standards are critical to #cloud portability in the longer run
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Holger Mueller
#OpenStack levels the field standards wise between all the players - so differentiation through technology becomes harder.
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John Furrier
@softlayer what about fully integrated stacks vs the ability to look under the hood and really plug n play composite code?
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Mike Miller
I don't quite understand the API debate. Doesn't chef/puppet abstract that away?
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Brian Fanzo
Cloud isn't an option anymore and the more people working on a solution that is scalable, reliable and makes sense for the more difficult problems the better. Open Standards are the best hope for Enterprise Companies!
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SoftLayer
And with open standards, #IaaS providers really have to up their games. When customers aren't "locked in," you have to *earn* their business every [month/hour].
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Holger Mueller
MyPOV - The biggest benefit of #OpenStack for #IaaS is that smaller startups find a huge ecosystem.
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Zeydy Ortiz, PhD
Standards provide some peace of mind for those trying to avoid vendor lock-in
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SRR
open stardards facilitate application portability @cloudchat
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John Furrier
API debate is here https://www.crowdchat.net/openstack
AWS API Debate
Openstack thought leaders weigh in key conversations
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Michael Fork
I view portability as very difficult to achieve unless we go beyond common APIs and start looking at reference architectures (e.g. number of NICs and HDDs)
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SoftLayer
@furrier There's a need/demand for both, and it remains to be seen which will win the day.
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Brian Fanzo
@crowdcaptain the question is how long will legacy applications take to be ready for the cloud in general.. Open Stack or AWS or etc... Legacy applications weren't built for cloud conditions..
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Holger Mueller
MyPOV - The API debate is good as long as it remains consistent. Will OpenStack become like Linux? Quo Vadis OpenStack http://enswmu.blogspot.com/search?q=quo+vadis
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Mike Miller
Our #cloudant engineers can chef their way around an IaaS API like nobody's business. Just another recipe.
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Michael Fork
@mlmilleratmit does it abstract it away? if one provider has a single nic with multiple IPs and public / private on it and a second has a two nics, one each for public and private can Chef / Puppet handle that?
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John Furrier
Brian cloud is a great option proprietary cloud is not an option
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John Furrier
thoughts on Open Compute in #IaaS ?
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Casey Lucas
@Furrier - IBM targets mass developer community with BlueMix cloud platform #CloudChat http://bit.ly/1nVDwva
IBM targets mass developer community with BlueMix cloud platform -
OVUM VIEW Summary The beta launch of codename BlueMix at IBM Pulse 2014 is IBM’s play for the mass developer market. It is opening up a PaaS on top of its IaaS offering and recent acquisition, SoftLayer, a public cloud player. It has ready-built serv...
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Michael Fork
@holgermu completely agree with your POV that one of biggest benefits of open standards is allowing small players into a large ecosystem
John Furrier
Q3: How is #IaaS changing the game for born-on-the-web startups?
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Michael Fork
See my previous answer - companies like WhatsApp and Instagram are able to build billion dollar companies with extremely small staffs and minimal investment. Anyone with an idea and a credit card has access to infrastructure to deliver globally.
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Holger Mueller
21st century Startups are born and run on #IaaS. Don't understand the queston. ;-)
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SoftLayer
IaaS isn’t really “changing” the game for born-on-the-web startups … It *created* the game for born-on-the-web startups. Entrepreneurs can start with a small pay-as-you-go cloud footprint and grow as customer demand increases.
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Mike Miller
It's changing everything. Instagram, WhatsApp: they don't own servers, don't have IT. They don't have DBAs. Focus on product.
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John Furrier
i get asked alot what is born on the web mean..
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Mike Miller
I shall define 'born on the web' as post-ec2
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Holger Mueller
I'd say #IaaS has changed the game - as in general more elastic computing resources.
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SoftLayer
Would there be born-on-the-web startups without #IaaS of some kind?
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Zeydy Ortiz, PhD
born-on-the-cloud may be more appropriate term
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Brian Fanzo
Born on the web startups have the advantage of Enterprises without legacy equipment or assets... #IAAS is configured via a credit card!
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Zeydy Ortiz, PhD
'the web' is SO 25 years ago!
John Furrier
Q7: What needs to happen to further ease security fears when it comes to #IaaS?
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Mike Miller
Time. Pharma, Finance, biotech--many anal industries are already storing data in the cloud. Challenges mostly social, not technical
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Michael Fork
More transparency! too much of what goes on is a black box. We need to give more control to the end-user, how do they secure their data and control who can access it, when, how, and for how long.
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Holger Mueller
More transparency, education and mixed cloud access. The #Softlayer bare metal approach is helpful here.
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Dormain Drewitz
a model for governance
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Mike Miller
Transparency is definitely key.
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SoftLayer
Security is tough to generalize because it is so provider- and customer-specific. The best way for #IaaS providers to ease security fears is to be forthright and transparent about physical and network security.
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Brian Fanzo
Yes @Holgermu has it right.. transparency, industry education & overall sharing of knowledge is key to cloud success!
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Crowd Captain
To experts: Is Security a do over or incremental improvement with IaaS
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SoftLayer
Like compliance, security is a shared responsibility.
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IBM Cloud
Greater transparency: noted.
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Mike Miller
@CrowdCaptain Multi-tenency has taken some work, but containers have been in production for some time
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Michael Fork
@CrowdCaptain only a do-over if app was poorly designed up front, IaaS won't cover for poor app design.
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Mike Miller
Maybe more Apache 2 OSS running in the cloud, too?
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Zeydy Ortiz, PhD
Security needs to be planned upfront, not an afterthought!
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Renat Khasanshyn
Q7: to solve security fears, we need Security as a Service, based on open source tech, and super easy to use, peer-tested to be anti-NSA-grade
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SRR
multi tenancy certification, adoption of compliance regulation best practice/standard at company level, best DDos network infrastructure,