OpenStack

AWS API Debate
Openstack thought leaders weigh in key conversations
Rob Hirschfeld11
"OpenStack Core" means something specific - the Foundation is working to refine it to and make it more concrete (input welcome!) http://robhirschfeld.com/2013/07/22/kicking-off-core/
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Kit Dotson That's a good call out. That the OpenStack core is currently in discussion does make talking about in-core and out-core have a different meeting.
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Kit Dotson -meaning even. Not meeting.
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John Furrier I agree and think that it's early
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Craig Tracey6
What I have not heard is how API adoption will help/hurt the OpenStack adoption curve.
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Dez Blanchfield4
my takeaway form this great conversation is that there is clearly a very healthy level of passionate discussion going on our our community an this is what keeps any project alive. can't wait to tune into round #2 soon hopefully..
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Craig Tracey4
We have adopted OpenStack to do what we couldn't do with AWS. Having compat would have made that time-to-market/transition easier. I suspect there are many potential users not willing to change their tooling.
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Rob Hirschfeld you could make that same argument for VMware APIs too > should OpenStack be doing that too?
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Craig Tracey why not? I'm not saying they should be the native API, but we definitely need on-ramps designed to grow the user base.
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Matt Ray if someone wants to take the time to code and support it (not that I've seen that demand)
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Rob Hirschfeld @craig_tracey we agree. question is how to maintain them and keep them working. would you slow down OpenStack innovation to make sure AWS API is not broken?
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Udaya Kumar do not think so. It is one more project to be managed but worth including considering that AWS and vmware have a decent customer base
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Craig Tracey we already have a slew of projects that are either incubated/not "core." I agree that this *could* become a distraction, but I am of the opinion that more innovation will come from being more welcoming to the cloud ecosystem.
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Udaya Kumar API Compatibility and Interoperability are critical when you want to help customers migrate but at the end quality of service implementation provides the stickiness and attraction
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CrowdChat : Quoting @scottsanchez http://twitter.com/scottsanchez/status/368206670121275392
scottsanchez
You can have 100% AWS API’s or you can have the minds of 10k+ community members innovating. Not both. #openstack
August 15th 8:04 PM
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Robert Cathey4
"Us against Amazon is totally ludicrous." @randybias
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John Furrier4
First question: Does standardization mean slowing down innovation resulting in lowest common demoninator?
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Rob Hirschfeld "standardization" is not the right word - neither AWS or OpenStack are standards. They are defacto APIs backed by implementations
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Tristan Goode yup.
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John Furrier http://twitter.com/zehicle/status/368193661466460160
zehicle
@furrier "standardization" is not the right word - neither AWS or OpenStack are standards. They are de... #OpenStack http://t.co/eE10J0J1kO
August 15th 7:13 PM
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John Furrier @robertcathey Robert Cathey "Every system must have it's own API, but that doesn't preclude you from being cross-compatible." @zer0... #OpenStack http://t.co/ByvRq7l7AQ
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Rob Hirschfeld Q: "can OpenStack support AWS API without participation from Amazon? Don't they determine what's in it?
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John Furrier http://twitter.com/jedelman8/status/368194675225530369
jedelman8
I'm liking this debate and overall forum. Keeping it real. http://t.co/RykWplTW7w #openstack
August 15th 7:17 PM
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mimizone4
press at a meetup. Not your usual meetup for sure.
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John Furrier SF Openstack meetup group is hosting an important conversation that will impact standards
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John Furrier #opensourcemedia http://twitter.com/robertcathey/status/368192668859650048
robertcathey
Live media webcast of a meetup... That's kinda new. #openstack.
August 15th 7:09 PM
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John Furrier Picture of event http://twitter.com/elvisdotcom333/status/368193517136273408
elvisdotcom333
(y) RT @davenielsen Panoramic view of "Great Cloud API Debate" just before kickoff #OpenStack #API @sfbayopenstack http://t.co/Ovn55ktSfE
August 15th 7:12 PM
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CrowdChat http://twitter.com/jedelman8/status/368194675225530369
jedelman8
I'm liking this debate and overall forum. Keeping it real. http://t.co/RykWplTW7w #openstack
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Sean Roberts3
thanks @furrier for hosting the video and chat feeds. good us that couldnt make it in person.
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John Furrier my pleasure this is an important conversations
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John Furrier3
Keeping it open here for on the record comments to be discussed. Share your voice and be heard.
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Rob Hirschfeld keep them talking! it was raining in ATX the whole time they were on stage.
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John Furrier Thanks Rob for being a part of Crowdchat debate
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CrowdChat Quoting @martenhauville http://twitter.com/martenhauville/status/368207677442121729
martenhauville
@furrier @zer0tweets @randybias Great debate to build it better, how does customer manage hybrid better? http://t.co/DNy7Wm1idd #openstack
August 15th 8:08 PM
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CrowdChat Quoting @sameerverma
http://twitter.com/sameerverma/status/368217839703842816
sameerverma
Listen up, #OpenStack people. #VMware CEO says OpenStack is not for the enterprise. Y'all can go home now. http://t.co/pXCW0gV4yB
August 15th 8:49 PM
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Tristan Goode3
How about an arm wrestle to finish :-)
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Sean Roberts thats the long arm of an aussie ;)
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Kit Dotson Maybe we can convince them to do a Call of Duty TDM to decide the debate.
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Dez Blanchfield ha, that's funny..
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Dez Blanchfield ha, that's funny.
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