Garima Bajpai23
What are the long-term benefits of moving from DevOps to SRE practices?
Kurt Andersen
SRE brings a perspective of the value being delivered to the customer more so than devops which usually stops at delivery into production.
Garima Bajpai
turning around the business model. - from reactive to proactive
Nicolas Philip
SRE practices is rather complementary to DevOps. It focuses on customer satisfaction.
Garima Bajpai
@drkurta Excellent - so Ops into DevOps :-)
Kurt Andersen
@RjSriram15 But why? Can you substantiate the cost/value trade-off? Especially if the underlying network infra is less reliable?
Deirdre Mahon
Understanding customer journey is really hard for eng teams #sre
Emily Arnott
Establishing a "universal language" across the whole org of reliability based on user happiness
Garima Bajpai
Top to down approach - renegotiating contracts. - move away from SLA driven approach
Kurt Andersen
SRE can also help with scaling individual devops team practices across the organization - working as a platform team (a la _Team Topologies_)
Garima Bajpai
preventing churn - continuous relationship rather one -time contract
Paul Chu
focusing on how the end user/customer is impacted across all aspects of development and operations
Kurt Andersen
@RjSriram15 At a certain point of baseline reliability, you need to focus on containment and quick remediation of incidents to achieve more overall reliability.
Oleg Nenashev
> SLIs --> OKRs
This part is a subject for debate. SLIs should be indeed metrics for measuring Key Results in the OKR framework, but at the same time not all KRs should be measurable as SLIs
> SLIs --> OKRs
This part is a subject for debate. SLIs should be indeed metrics for measuring Key Results in the OKR framework, but at the same time not all KRs should be measurable as SLIs
Deirdre Mahon
@oleg_nenashev yes indeed words matter too. sticking with the agreed objective for time to learn is key. orgs tend to have little patience
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Deirdre Mahon
@RjSriram15 or the other direction?
Oleg Nenashev
@dbmahon indeed many orgs have little patience and even less long-term strategy. Some of them confuse lack of patience and failing fast unfortunately. So they always fail...