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a2: In its infancy but growing fast. Gartner says in 2018, 10% of enterprise data was being generated at the edge. By 2025, this number is predicted to be 75%

@brucekornfeld That's a stunning growth rate. There's gold in them hills :)

A2. The market for edge native compute services is in a formative and rapidly evolving stage, without dominant vendors or widely adapted standard solutions. I’d still say the peak is some years away, maybe 5-10 years

#eWeekChat We are definitely in early stage. Not sure I can call the peak but would like to run towards it as fast we can. :-)

A2. IMO still very much only getting started, we’re only now seeing in earnest SaaS offerings for deploying Kubernetes applications to edge in a developer friendly way (which for realtime products, services & entertainment running a % of the stack there can be game changing)

also - the pandemic caused all sorts of businesses to accelerate their edge strategies....

A2: #Edge is just starting, IMO. #IT is an accordion, always has been. #Edge is new but also not new - like #cloud. We are at the edge (pun intended) of a precipice. Many use cases to discover!

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A2: It is fast maturing and poised to overtake cloud in terms of computing in only several years.

E.g. big uptick in #enterprise #video w/ #WfH #HybridWork #WfWW # - unsustainable #bandwidth without #Edge e.g. in-browser #eCDN (cf @kollectivetech) to on-prem #EdgeCache (@Qumu Pathfinder). Boxes making a comeback? #SiliconValleyHBO

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Just looking at the number of edge focused projects accepted by the CNCF in the last couple years tells its own story

A2: Edge for those who used CDN, who used Mobile has been there for a long time , those who talked about programmable services (Telcos who went into redefinition of Network Functions and Services) used that , but in broader Enterprises domain, it is becoming more of a need now.

@roskilli Ah, speaking of K8S - this is one of my favorite indicators of where a market it - where is #Edge Management right now? Very early! First comes the (r)evolution, then comes the management. We are in revolution stage rn w. #Edge IMO.

@Chris_Ehrlich and data creation/storage has likely already overtaken the cloud

@brucekornfeld Follow the data :)

@iLakshmiS Yes, exactly - IT has always had #edge - sort of. In mobile apps or CDNs as you say. Also in-browser compute, localized storage, virtual desktops. Edge, but also not.

@dangit_hub good point on the numbers from CNCF

@AndiMann Oh, and of course #IoT was always '#edge'. per @sameer_iot

+! @andimann compute solutions, storage solutions and we see that trend catching up.. Our Compute@Edge customers have many innovative ways in which they use our Edge while they effectively have Apps on prem and also in cloud

A7: @JamesMaguire #eWeekChat Vendors that can provide end-to-end ecosytem will win big! takes a village to do it. No other option. Multiple "IOT Platforms" have failed because vendors try to do it all.

A7: I’ll be “silent” on this question since we are a vendor : ) But I’d say solution providers are the big winners. Edge is not a commodity - there are lots of options - it takes careful planning and execution since there typically dozens, hundred or thousands of sites

A7: Networking vendors as well as cloud vendors that take share early.

A7. Per IDC - "By 2025, services will account for nearly 50% of all edge spending led by investments in provisioned services, including connectivity and edge-related infrastructure, platform, and software as a service (IaaS, PaaS, and SaaS)."

A7: yes, I am with @chris_ehrlich - #hardware and #networking for sure. #Edge #software too, obvs. But defo big #cloud vendors too. Edge neatly complements cloud, fills a lot of gaps, forgives a lot of sins! Esp. pragmatic cloud vendors who recognize hybrid use cases

IDC also predicts a CAGR of 19.6% for edge services

@dangit_hub That can be called a "torrid" growth rate.

A7. Vendors that make it simple to use existing tools and platforms already in use today in existing compute environments but for their edge works will win alongside the edge providers (who ultimately are the biggest winners), eg. single plane of glass observability on edge/cloud

@dangit_hub and Gartner has the total edge market at $450B by 2025.

@brucekornfeld Not a bad market

@brucekornfeld Don't sweat it Bruce. "Everybody sells". Vendors are people too! 😂

Keep in mind edge is not monolithic...vertical use cases need to be comprehended - retail, industrial, health, transportation etc

@AndiMann right!!!!

@sameer_iot Great point Sameer - #edge is many things to many people, and to many vendors. I presume we will see much "EdgeWashing", but also a lot of new and different use cases. There is so much greenspace!

@sameer_iot Absolutely - our edge work with manufacturing, retail, and health customers shares common components but the solutions are quite different

A9: Trying to send all data to the cloud is problematic - high storage and transmission costs, app performance/latency due to the “speed of light” and security concerns. Lots to think about for end users.

@brucekornfeld Physics wins every time

A9. Understand how it fits into your wider strategy TODAY. Don't be like Netflix and pretend you don't need offline mode for playback but then find the market has always wanted that and you're behind. Plan now and execute when it makes sense.

A9. To Andy's earlier point about #skills, expecting current IT staffs to take on this challenge without training and partners will result in missed opportunities at the very least

@dangit_hub I'd hate to wait for the 1's and 0's from my cars camera to go up to the cloud and back down before it automatically applied my brakes : )

A9: #Edge requires major #EnterpriseArchitecture and mindset shift, and a huge dose of pragmatism. #CloudFirst is not cloud only! Idealists need not apply. (Same for #EdgeOnly too, FWIW).

A9: The edge market opportunity on the supply side is immense and undefined.

@brucekornfeld Would that be a ... "non-starter"? (sorry)

A9. I'm going to start using #EdgeNative until people know what it means. First I better figure it out....

A9: @JamesMaguire Right now the place everyones’ mind goes is “near the user”, but there’s a lot more to it than that. Modern applications are complex. They talk to the user, yes. But they also talk to multiple databases, multiple APIs, security systems, logging systems,etc.

maybe instead of a "Cloud First" strategy - forward thinking architects might think "Edge First"....

@jamesmaguire (cont) They also need to exist within the rules of data sovereignty. AND they need to be fast and reliable. Taking all of that into account, the future edge is going to be about making your application “locationless”. It exists globally and runs where it needs to be

Not necessarily for edge native, but there is a pretty good glossary here - https://github.com/State-of-the-Edge/glossary/blob... (gotta plug for CNCF)

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@brucekornfeld yep. Edge would not be re-platforming, re-deploying same thing like Cloud Migration was/is, it is re-architecting to get the benefits of this locations less, anytime, really fast approach of Application Building and deploying

A9. True "hybrid cloud" will fully encompass edge, core and everything in-between

@dangit_hub Will "multicloud" also encompass all that?

We differentiate between hybrid cloud and multicloud, but I believe there will be great pressure from enterprises for IT to treat "all the clouds" as one estate

@dangit_hub I think that will be true.

@jamesmaguire @dangit_hub @brucekornfeld +1 on skills. If you are not an App/Developers' first company or have not made that investment into tooling for your teams, you would need to.

@chris_ehrlich Tru that point on Supply chain opportunities, anything touches a variety of users in globally or physically disparate locations and skill sets and we want the end to end workflow to result into Efficiency, #Edge is the way