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James Maguire
Q2. Where is edge computing in its growth curve? How far are we from peak edge computing?
Bruce Kornfeld
a2: In its infancy but growing fast. Gartner says in 2018, 10% of enterprise data was being generated at the edge. By 2025, this number is predicted to be 75%
James Maguire
@brucekornfeld That's a stunning growth rate. There's gold in them hills :)
Dan Griffith
A2. The market for edge native compute services is in a formative and rapidly evolving stage, without dominant vendors or widely adapted standard solutions. I’d still say the peak is some years away, maybe 5-10 years
Sameer Sharma
#eWeekChat We are definitely in early stage. Not sure I can call the peak but would like to run towards it as fast we can. :-)
Rob Skillington 🇺🇦
A2. IMO still very much only getting started, we’re only now seeing in earnest SaaS offerings for deploying Kubernetes applications to edge in a developer friendly way (which for realtime products, services & entertainment running a % of the stack there can be game changing)
Bruce Kornfeld
also - the pandemic caused all sorts of businesses to accelerate their edge strategies....
Andi Mann
A2: #Edge is just starting, IMO. #IT is an accordion, always has been. #Edge is new but also not new - like #cloud. We are at the edge (pun intended) of a precipice. Many use cases to discover!

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Chris Ehrlich
A2: It is fast maturing and poised to overtake cloud in terms of computing in only several years.
Andi Mann
E.g. big uptick in #enterprise #video w/ #WfH #HybridWork #WfWW # - unsustainable #bandwidth without #Edge e.g. in-browser #eCDN (cf @kollectivetech) to on-prem #EdgeCache (@Qumu Pathfinder). Boxes making a comeback? #SiliconValleyHBO

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Dan Griffith
Just looking at the number of edge focused projects accepted by the CNCF in the last couple years tells its own story
Lakshmi Sharma
A2: Edge for those who used CDN, who used Mobile has been there for a long time , those who talked about programmable services (Telcos who went into redefinition of Network Functions and Services) used that , but in broader Enterprises domain, it is becoming more of a need now.
Andi Mann
@roskilli Ah, speaking of K8S - this is one of my favorite indicators of where a market it - where is #Edge Management right now? Very early! First comes the (r)evolution, then comes the management. We are in revolution stage rn w. #Edge IMO.
Bruce Kornfeld
@Chris_Ehrlich and data creation/storage has likely already overtaken the cloud
Andi Mann
@iLakshmiS Yes, exactly - IT has always had #edge - sort of. In mobile apps or CDNs as you say. Also in-browser compute, localized storage, virtual desktops. Edge, but also not.
Lakshmi Sharma
@dangit_hub good point on the numbers from CNCF
Andi Mann
@AndiMann Oh, and of course #IoT was always '#edge'. per @sameer_iot
Lakshmi Sharma
+! @andimann compute solutions, storage solutions and we see that trend catching up.. Our Compute@Edge customers have many innovative ways in which they use our Edge while they effectively have Apps on prem and also in cloud
James Maguire
Q7. Who are the biggest winners as edge gains adoption?
Sameer Sharma
A7: @JamesMaguire #eWeekChat Vendors that can provide end-to-end ecosytem will win big! takes a village to do it. No other option. Multiple "IOT Platforms" have failed because vendors try to do it all.
Bruce Kornfeld
A7: I’ll be “silent” on this question since we are a vendor : ) But I’d say solution providers are the big winners. Edge is not a commodity - there are lots of options - it takes careful planning and execution since there typically dozens, hundred or thousands of sites
Chris Ehrlich
A7: Networking vendors as well as cloud vendors that take share early.
Dan Griffith
A7. Per IDC - "By 2025, services will account for nearly 50% of all edge spending led by investments in provisioned services, including connectivity and edge-related infrastructure, platform, and software as a service (IaaS, PaaS, and SaaS)."
Andi Mann
A7: yes, I am with @chris_ehrlich - #hardware and #networking for sure. #Edge #software too, obvs. But defo big #cloud vendors too. Edge neatly complements cloud, fills a lot of gaps, forgives a lot of sins! Esp. pragmatic cloud vendors who recognize hybrid use cases
Dan Griffith
IDC also predicts a CAGR of 19.6% for edge services
James Maguire
@dangit_hub That can be called a "torrid" growth rate.
Rob Skillington 🇺🇦
A7. Vendors that make it simple to use existing tools and platforms already in use today in existing compute environments but for their edge works will win alongside the edge providers (who ultimately are the biggest winners), eg. single plane of glass observability on edge/cloud
Bruce Kornfeld
@dangit_hub and Gartner has the total edge market at $450B by 2025.
Andi Mann
@brucekornfeld Don't sweat it Bruce. "Everybody sells". Vendors are people too! 😂
Sameer Sharma
Keep in mind edge is not monolithic...vertical use cases need to be comprehended - retail, industrial, health, transportation etc
Andi Mann
@sameer_iot Great point Sameer - #edge is many things to many people, and to many vendors. I presume we will see much "EdgeWashing", but also a lot of new and different use cases. There is so much greenspace!
Dan Griffith
@sameer_iot Absolutely - our edge work with manufacturing, retail, and health customers shares common components but the solutions are quite different
James Maguire
Q9. Last question: What else is important about edge computing – what else should companies be aware of?
Bruce Kornfeld
A9: Trying to send all data to the cloud is problematic - high storage and transmission costs, app performance/latency due to the “speed of light” and security concerns. Lots to think about for end users.
Dan Griffith
@brucekornfeld Physics wins every time
Rob Skillington 🇺🇦
A9. Understand how it fits into your wider strategy TODAY. Don't be like Netflix and pretend you don't need offline mode for playback but then find the market has always wanted that and you're behind. Plan now and execute when it makes sense.
Dan Griffith
A9. To Andy's earlier point about #skills, expecting current IT staffs to take on this challenge without training and partners will result in missed opportunities at the very least
Bruce Kornfeld
@dangit_hub I'd hate to wait for the 1's and 0's from my cars camera to go up to the cloud and back down before it automatically applied my brakes : )
Andi Mann
A9: #Edge requires major #EnterpriseArchitecture and mindset shift, and a huge dose of pragmatism. #CloudFirst is not cloud only! Idealists need not apply. (Same for #EdgeOnly too, FWIW).
Chris Ehrlich
A9: The edge market opportunity on the supply side is immense and undefined.
Dan Griffith
@brucekornfeld Would that be a ... "non-starter"? (sorry)
James Maguire
A9. I'm going to start using #EdgeNative until people know what it means. First I better figure it out....
Lakshmi Sharma
A9: @JamesMaguire Right now the place everyones’ mind goes is “near the user”, but there’s a lot more to it than that. Modern applications are complex. They talk to the user, yes. But they also talk to multiple databases, multiple APIs, security systems, logging systems,etc.
Bruce Kornfeld
maybe instead of a "Cloud First" strategy - forward thinking architects might think "Edge First"....
Lakshmi Sharma
@jamesmaguire (cont) They also need to exist within the rules of data sovereignty. AND they need to be fast and reliable. Taking all of that into account, the future edge is going to be about making your application “locationless”. It exists globally and runs where it needs to be
Dan Griffith
Not necessarily for edge native, but there is a pretty good glossary here - https://github.com/State-of-the-Edge/glossary/blob... (gotta plug for CNCF)
https://github.com/State-of-the-Edge/glossary/blob/master/edge-glossary.md
glossary/edge-glossary.md at master · State-of-the-Edge/glossary
glossary/edge-glossary.md at master · State-of-the-Edge/glossary
The Linux Foundation's Open Glossary of Edge Computing project curates and defines terms related to the field of edge computing, collecting common and accepted definitions into an openly licens...
Lakshmi Sharma
@brucekornfeld yep. Edge would not be re-platforming, re-deploying same thing like Cloud Migration was/is, it is re-architecting to get the benefits of this locations less, anytime, really fast approach of Application Building and deploying
Dan Griffith
A9. True "hybrid cloud" will fully encompass edge, core and everything in-between
James Maguire
@dangit_hub Will "multicloud" also encompass all that?
Dan Griffith
We differentiate between hybrid cloud and multicloud, but I believe there will be great pressure from enterprises for IT to treat "all the clouds" as one estate
James Maguire
@dangit_hub I think that will be true.
Lakshmi Sharma
@jamesmaguire @dangit_hub @brucekornfeld +1 on skills. If you are not an App/Developers' first company or have not made that investment into tooling for your teams, you would need to.
Lakshmi Sharma
@chris_ehrlich Tru that point on Supply chain opportunities, anything touches a variety of users in globally or physically disparate locations and skill sets and we want the end to end workflow to result into Efficiency, #Edge is the way