John Furrier64
Q: Will the "hyperconverged" infrastructure market turn into Private Cloud which will in turn fuel the "hybrid cloud"
Jason R McGee
Hyperconverged has always tried to be part of the private cloud landscape, but i think the fuel for hybrid will be management models that provide the cloud service model everywhere
Jesse Proudman
Hypercoverged helps drive next-generation infrastructure into existing data centers adjacent to existing data sets. To make a material impact, those systems need to live up as true cloud platforms - not just advanced virtualization.
John Furrier
Hybrid is an engineered private cloud to public imo; do you see the same?
Ed Saipetch
debatable. "hyperconverged" certainly is a piece of the puzzle and makes scaling Private Cloud easier but there's more to Private Cloud than scalable infra.
Jason R McGee
i don't see hybrid as a transition. I see it as a permanent state that enables applications to run where they make sense.
Jesse Proudman
Hybrid cloud exists when a single application spans multiple cloud infrastructures. Doesn't have to be public / private. Can be private hosted and private on-premises. But single application working across multiple platforms is key.
Rich Hintz
I just don't see hyperconverged as a economic/tech solution for anything but leaf nodes. Hate to be a naysayer here, too. What's the value?
John Furrier
@jrmcgee I agree totally it's permanent model; it's not general purpose though; which makes it confusing to customers
Rich Hintz
Hybrid is gated by data gravity. Transaction shipping across on premises and cloud is intuitively not worth it. YMMV.
Jesse Proudman
@rjhintz You can have a cloud and cloud experience on premises. Agree 100% on lack of feasibility of data shipping to public.
Ed Saipetch
@rjhintz I disagree somewhat, especially when your public and private cloud are in the same datacenter ;)
Rich Hintz
@blueboxjesse So, on prem, you're investing in all the infra in a dinky 2W datacenter + 2 or more replicas? Just don't see this as viable today.
Rich Hintz
@edsai Sorry, don't understand this topology
Rich Hintz
@rjhintz Oops, meant 2MW datacenter(s)
Ed Saipetch
@rjhintz you imply that "private cloud" means on premises or hundreds of miles away. it doesn't have to be. it can be in the same facility as a public cloud or one that's next to it.
Jesse Proudman
@rjhintz On-Prem doesn't always mean in your office telco closet / data center FWIW. The key here is the ability to deploy and operate cloud native applications adjacent to your existing data.
Rich Hintz
@edsai "same facility as public cloud" But not co-lo? Next to public cloud is still your own infra. Maybe not possible to get this clear here.
Rich Hintz
@blueboxjesse I'm drawing the distinction between public cloud and your own infra. All apps don't have to be cloud native, even if parked at AWS. You just run big scale up instances
Stuart Miniman
great topic - (hyper)converged is the foundation of private cloud. Starting to see more improvements in the orchestration/automation to make it operationally more like public cloud.
Crowd Captain
Muddu Sudhakar @smuddu says
Hyperconverged infrastructure "over Hyped"-it has limited use cases of apps/workloads; VDI, QA/Test etc.
Hyperconverged infrastructure "over Hyped"-it has limited use cases of apps/workloads; VDI, QA/Test etc.