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Here's the state of IaaS revenue - no surprise that AWS is winning - Microsoft Azure has higher growth and IBM is in the conversation of the largest clouds http://www.via-cc.at...
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Rich Hintz
Do IBM numbers include co-lo and services?
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Brian Gracely
@rjhintz IBM's numbers include a number of elements (DC, SW, ProfSvcs). Not completely granular breakout.
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Rich Hintz
@bgracely Right, so they're cloudwashing co-lo and any services remotely associated with cloud. Not quite apples-apples.
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Rich Hintz
@bgracely and Oracle counts hardware in support of cloud as sales revenue. You guys have your work cut out normalizing this bogus vendor data. ;)
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Brian Gracely
@rjhintz it's definitely challenging to do apples-to-apples when there is limited financial transparency and individual services aren't broken out.