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Oracle PaaS Launch
Crowd conversation on the Oracle PaaS announcement
Phil Dunn
Is public cloud commoditizing just like x86 vendors? look at whats happened to Dell privatizing, IBM selling off x86 business, HP splitting,etc. Amazon, Google, Azure all in a price battle. How low can they go before becoming margin zero?
John Furrier
thanks for the questions keep them coming.
Phil Dunn
revenue rich, cash/margin poor...
Phil Dunn
I think the problem with most cloud providers, they don't control the whole stack, so depend on IP from other vendors-can they control their destiny?
John Furrier
. @Phil_Dunn1 the margin is loss leader shifting the value to high margin services is the key; value has to be there
Phil Dunn
and if that value becomes commoditized?
John Furrier
I believe that value never get commodized but it shifts maybe up the stack or to the app and app ecosystem
Kaisar Nova Khatak
.@Phil_Dunn1 IAAS commoditizing...Value add has moved up the stack to PAAS and SAAS. Microsoft vs Oracle face-off in Hybrid Cloud solutions space.
Dave Vellante
Larry now doing the oracle v aws comparison - his main point is that w/ aws you still are responsible to provision your own SW - amazon only does infrastructure provisioning
Phil Dunn
"Theres an app for that" says Oracle.. Sound familiar?
Dave Vellante
oracle tests show on prem provisioning & config takes 8.5 hrs, aws (they say) takes 7 hours, Orcle cloud under 2 hours (they say)
John Furrier
AWS will solve this problem. Oracle is getting out front on the automation of the #devops which is key to their strategy
Dave Vellante
Commands required to patch - 307 on prem, 155 on aws, 0 on oracle cloud
Dave Vellante
LJE says we have "much better automation than Amazon"
Phil Dunn
Wow. Larry says "We will compete against Amazon on Price"
Tim Crawford
@Phil_Dunn1 Oracle has much more leverage than Amazon.
Phil Dunn
@tcrawford @dvellante #Oracle owns the IP to the whole stack, so has better control of costs and margin
Evan Powell
@tcrawford By leverage what do you mean? They also have much more cash flow.
John Furrier
. @epowell101 @tcrawford Oracle is bigger and stronger than AWS but AWS is nimble. setting up for a great battle
Bert Latamore
Live webcast of the #Oracle PaaS announcement with Larry Ellison and other top Oracle execs next up on #theCUBE. Watch & join the conversation at https://www.crowdcha...
[LIVE CHAT] Oracle PaaS Launch
Crowd conversation on the Oracle PaaS announcement
Bert Latamore
#Oracle announcing 24 new Paas & Infrastructure services.
Tim Crawford
Oracle announcing 24+ new #cloud services today.
Tim Crawford
Key: @Oracle playing at all three layers of #cloud (SaaS, PaaS, IaaS).
Tim Crawford
Will be interesting to see if @Oracle IaaS is perceived as a competitor to AWS & Azure for Enterprises.
Bert Latamore
"We now have a complete suite for building applications in the cloud" -- Larry Ellison.
Tim Crawford
MyPOV: Today's cloud-based suites need to be vertical specific...not general purpose.
Tim Crawford
As of today: Enterprises are now able to move all applications (not just @Oracle) to Oracle's #cloud.
Bert Latamore
The Oracle PaaS is the platform that Oracle uses to build all its own applications. Now customers can use it to build extensions to those applications with complete compatibility -- Larry Ellison.
Bert Latamore
Oracle used to compete with SAP & IBM. It never sees either competitor in the cloud. The two top competitors there are Salesforce & Workday -- both smaller companies -- Larry Ellison.
Bert Latamore
In IaaS Oracle's chief competitor is AWS, not IBM. The only old competitor it still sees in sales of cloud services is Microsoft. The world has changed -- Larry Ellison.
John Furrier
. @BertLatamore No mention of EMC or VMware
Tim Crawford
@furrier The competitors are being selected very carefully...not accurate. Read between lines.
Bert Latamore
@tcrawford Everything he says is very carefully selected.
Bert Latamore
Ellison says Oracle automates not just the hardware but nearly all the software -- database, app development. All AWS automates is the hardware.
Bert Latamore
Avaya SVP & CIO Fari Ebrahimi live now on #theCUBE from the #Oracle PaaS launch event. Watch & join the conversation at https://www.crowdcha...
[LIVE CHAT] Oracle PaaS Launch
Crowd conversation on the Oracle PaaS announcement
Tim Crawford
Great to see a #CIO who integrates internal/ external businesses. Would be good to discuss how that started.
John Furrier
. @tcrawford we love global CIOs on @thecube great content; ask questions
Tim Crawford
Tim Crawford Note that #CIO Ebrahimi is talking about understanding the value chain for Avaya.
Tim Crawford
As a #CIO for a tech company, who drives the tech and/or product strategy for Avaya?
John Furrier
Fari cuts 80% of the customization with Oracle - that's huge
Tim Crawford
Would be interesting to discuss the cultural shifts required rather than just tech.
Tim Crawford
MyPOV: The real business value is in apps (closer to business) not infrastructure.
Bert Latamore
Devops is here, its real. We want our developers to live in the cloud & build integration rather than worrying about the stack under the application. Apps are the real future -- #Avaya CIO Fari Ebrahimi on #theCUBE from #Oracle PaaS launch.
Bert Latamore
Put your customer, your end-user, at the center of your thinking. @Avaya CIO Fari Ebrahimi on #theCUBE from #Oracle PaaS launch.
John Furrier
Love the Global CIO insight from Fari Ebrahimi great advice look end to end
Tim Crawford
#DevOps is here and real. However, it requires changes most don't understand well. #dockercon
Bert Latamore
Larry Ellison announcing an Oracle compute service that allows its customers to deploy any application -- Oracle or third party -- on its cloud with dedicated cycles so noisy neighbors don't impact performance.
Bert Latamore
Oracle is prepared to compete with AWS on price, says Ellison.
Dave Vellante
Oracle's cloud story is clean - I will give LJE credit there - IaaS, PaaS and SaaS - clear strategy that Safra quantifies each quarter (for each segment)
Tim Crawford
It's a great start. They don't have to be perfect to make a massive dent.
John Furrier
. @dvellante if you're a customer you would eat that pitch for breakfast lunch & dinner all day long
Doug Henschen
@Oracle has been very consistent, I'll give them that. We've been hearing these same messages for a few years. Sometimes surprising to hear that some services are "new" when we've been hearing claims of their existence for quarters if not years
Doug Henschen
@Exadata, for example, is now "new" in the cloud, but haven't we been told previously that its available in the cloud?
John Furrier
. @DHenschen I think that this is not new but packaged for consumption for #cloud
Jon Huang
@DHenschen, Exa* has been supporting customers' private cloud for a long time. The fact that Exadata is now available in the Oracle Public Cloud, entirely managed by Oracle, with the pricing and consumption model as a true cloud product is brand new
John Furrier
@JonHuangORA this should really increase the reach of Exadata foothold down the market
Jon Huang
@furrier absolutely. extreme workloads support now easily accessible without the upfront capex and on-prem cost. brilliant!
Doug Henschen
Another example where new news seems familiar: Oracle Enterprise Manager to manage both on-prem and cloud? Heard that before, so what's the new wrinkle/nuance?
Jon Huang
@DHenschen the EM capabilities are very quickly catching up. be sure to check out the EM 12cR5 launch event http://bit.ly/1fuB67... on 6/25.