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Q5: How will open standards (like @OpenStack) continue to shape #IaaS? What about the API debates?

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Dormain Drewitz

There are industry standards, and there are de facto standards... ;)

Openstack vs AWS is Android vs iOS, part deux. Amazon vs the world. OpenStack enables seamless private/public cloud spillover.

They help to standardize and consolidate workloads around specific APIs, simplifying compatibility and bringing closer to portability. However, still have issues around differing implementations - one NIC vs two, different HDD structures, etc.

What about software is it ready for prime time in Openstack

Open standards and platforms like OpenStack and CloudStack further abstract the nuts and bolts of infrastructure from customers. In the past, developers would code an application to servers with specific hardware components. Not so anymore.

Open standards allow developers to code an application to a vendor-agnostic framework, so those applications can be much more flexible when it comes to the underlying hardware.

Dormain Drewitz

#AWS is currently the de facto standard... but industry standards are critical to #cloud portability in the longer run

#OpenStack levels the field standards wise between all the players - so differentiation through technology becomes harder.

@softlayer what about fully integrated stacks vs the ability to look under the hood and really plug n play composite code?

I don't quite understand the API debate. Doesn't chef/puppet abstract that away?

Cloud isn't an option anymore and the more people working on a solution that is scalable, reliable and makes sense for the more difficult problems the better. Open Standards are the best hope for Enterprise Companies!

And with open standards, #IaaS providers really have to up their games. When customers aren't "locked in," you have to *earn* their business every [month/hour].

MyPOV - The biggest benefit of #OpenStack for #IaaS is that smaller startups find a huge ecosystem.

Zeydy Ortiz, PhD

Standards provide some peace of mind for those trying to avoid vendor lock-in

open stardards facilitate application portability @cloudchat

API debate is here https://www.crowdchat.net/openstack

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I view portability as very difficult to achieve unless we go beyond common APIs and start looking at reference architectures (e.g. number of NICs and HDDs)

@furrier There's a need/demand for both, and it remains to be seen which will win the day.

@crowdcaptain the question is how long will legacy applications take to be ready for the cloud in general.. Open Stack or AWS or etc... Legacy applications weren't built for cloud conditions..

MyPOV - The API debate is good as long as it remains consistent. Will OpenStack become like Linux? Quo Vadis OpenStack http://enswmu.blogspot.com/search?q=quo+vadis

Our #cloudant engineers can chef their way around an IaaS API like nobody's business. Just another recipe.

@mlmilleratmit does it abstract it away? if one provider has a single nic with multiple IPs and public / private on it and a second has a two nics, one each for public and private can Chef / Puppet handle that?

Brian cloud is a great option proprietary cloud is not an option

thoughts on Open Compute in #IaaS ?

@Furrier - IBM targets mass developer community with BlueMix cloud platform #CloudChat http://bit.ly/1nVDwva

IBM targets mass developer community with BlueMix cloud platform -
OVUM VIEW Summary The beta launch of codename BlueMix at IBM Pulse 2014 is IBM’s play for the mass developer market. It is opening up a PaaS on top of its IaaS offering and recent acquisition, SoftLayer, a public cloud player. It has ready-built serv...

@holgermu completely agree with your POV that one of biggest benefits of open standards is allowing small players into a large ecosystem

What kind of #cloud do I need for #DevOps? http://ibm.co/1dOsfcI #orchestrator #smartcloudentry

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In my previous blog post, “ What DevOps and triathlons have in common: Connecting the dots ,” I explained why it makes sense to consider cloud technology when implementing the DevOps concept of a continuous delivery pipeline . The question ...

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Devops has to have version control imo bc that is core to devops

You don't need a cloud for #DevOps - you pick a cloud and then need DevOps for it...

http://www.io.com/products-services/enterprise-cloud/ #IOcloud #Openstack #OpenCompute

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q4: furrier ability to integrate IAAS services with whole IT system in client context (brokering), interoperability with legacy systems for enterprise clients.#cloudchat, support of different plaftorms, transparency to application prerequisites, api

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#IBMcloud has the most complete cloud portfolio in the #industry. @ldignan’s article explains how it fits together: http://zd.net/1g2HC1X #CloudChat

IBM 'as a service' cloud pieces fall into place | ZDNet
IBM has acquired a bevy of cloud companies and built a Big Blue cloud stack. Here's a look at the moving parts and how they fit together as IBM moves from hardware to the cloud.

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#IBMcloud has the most complete cloud portfolio in the #industry. @ldignan’s article explains how it fits together: http://zd.net/1g2HC1X

IBM 'as a service' cloud pieces fall into place | ZDNet
IBM has acquired a bevy of cloud companies and built a Big Blue cloud stack. Here's a look at the moving parts and how they fit together as IBM moves from hardware to the cloud.

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Q4: What must cloud service providers do to differentiate themselves when it comes to #IaaS?

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Dormain Drewitz

ecosystem!

Service providers target segments - SoftLayer w/ performance, consistent QoS, and transparency; Amazon the developer experience; Azure the .NET developer; Rackspace and HP OpenStack

Focus on the “S” in “IaaS.” Infrastructure is obviously what customers need, but how that infrastructure is delivered (“as a service”) determines whether they’ll get it from you or from one of your competitors.

Defining the "Path to the Cloud" is important as that is the biggest hangup for those who haven't moved but really want too

MyPOV - They need to differntiate to the leader #AWS - they can do with price, presence, practices, policy, performance & product.

Dormain Drewitz

ultimately, for the enterprise, they have to acknowledge that they aren't the only game in town. They need to engage with customers about their overall architecture.

developers are key to success that is why #AWS was so successful

@iSocial_Fanz What providers do you think do that well?

The question all #IaaS vendors need to answer - "So why would I not use #AWS?"

And for the #OpenStack crowd - what makes your Openstack better than A, B and C's?

many will differentiate from AWS with locality or industry focus - low latency to the user or access to community specific data delivers key value

Thanks to confusion in the industry, the baseline that most Cloud providers have provided ... the service angle today requires someone to control every step.. most companies want to know what to do, when to do it and the risk vs reward!

#AWS has done great bc it really enabled developers in public and "green field" apps..enterprise is harder but same model- enablement

LIke the ecosystem reply - better than "segment" I used!

Ad Price - #Azure & #OracleCloud want to make the argument mute.

Network! AWS can do 10k packets/sec/instance. Softlayer does 250k+. That's a big difference. Bare metal matters.

ability to integrate IAAS services with whole IT system in client context (brokering), interoperability with legacy systems for enterprise clients.#cloudchat, support of different plaftorms, transparency to application prerequisites, api

Ad presence - #IBMcloud has thrown down the gauntlet to push datacenter presence to 40 locations - others have not responded (yet)...

Big push to build-out more data centers - IBM committed $1.2B, Google $2.9B

The other big thing is APIs for bare metal spin-up in minutes.

Ad Practices - @Salesforce with #Heroku and @Google with #GCE make strong cases.

Everyone should definitely upvote @mlmilleratmit's response about network. (Totally unbiased recommendation.)

provide a solution that truly meets enterprise concerns and most stringent needs (security, performance, QoS) while still delivering all the agility and elasticity of true IaaS