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Thank you, it's been a great discussion - Joseph from BMC!

Thanks for having us here. Great set of interactions & perspectives

it was fun, happy to join again with smart guests like these

@ramsba Thanks for your thoughts!

Thanks! Great insights from everyone.

@arnlopez So many smart experts, indeed.

@jwittich Thanks Jeff!

- Thanks to panel. Good insights.

@GaneshJKRam Thanks Ganesh!

Thank you so much for inviting me

@bernardgolden Always a pleasure Bernard!

@BMCSoftware Thanks Joseph!

@JamesMaguire Thanks for this wonderful opportunity. Love this fast and engaging experience.

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Thanks for having me!!

@codyhosterman Thanks Cody!

@iLakshmiS Great having you on board Lakshmi!

A9: Do not go multi-cloud because someone else is doing it. Know your workloads well, your need to be multi-cloud and plan/ design for it. Public cloud is like a Swiss army knife that can help you – but the snowflakes and cost overruns can harm if you don’t know how to use it.

(1) Apps and data rule the choices today - but infra & shared services make those choices unbearable at-times... consciously move those security and networking choices to the fore-front, and not "after" the fact

A9: your choices are not longer just limited to x86, even in a multi-cloud world. arm-based processors like Ampere are pervasive across all clouds today! driving the needed performance efficiency

Q9: your dollars give you power, ask your top cloud service providers to open their platforms more with secure APIs to make your lives easier managing your workloads, ecosystem and federation is a good thing

A9: If a workload isn’t running in your #datacenter it doesn’t mean you can abdicate responsibility. You’re still responsible for your application performance & #customerexperience – and need to invest in technology to manage #cloud applications and optimize resources and costs.

A9: Multi-cloud is not the same as the traditional "dual vendor" strategy, and I would urge against choosing that simply as a defensive move. It should be about more than that--otherwise you are missing the true value

(2) Careabouts are different at each stage. What you look at during the first 20 workloads - very different when you are operating at 100 workloads, and very different at 500+. Cost, latency, performance, operational choices, skill-set gap are all quite real. Hard to fix after

Q9: Just like all of us, the threat actors are taking their business to the cloud, invest in a security platform with deep hooks into your cloud apps and especially your data, side doors and back doors are hard to lock down

A9 Understand your present and future multi-cloud use case(s). Put in the work early to design an architecture that supports and encompasses the ability to deliver desired use case(s) across multiple environment.

A9: Multi-Cloud will not be same for any two companies. Choose wisely, start small based on your business and users's needs now. If Security , Speed, and personalization are the needs. start with edge. For large volume data and compute hosting, choose a provider that offers that

@bernardgolden Because designing in requirements is far, far easier than retrofitting them post-launch.

A9: ask the hard questions about efficiency and sustainability. not all infra is created equal and not all "green" power is the same. find out the footprint of what you're actually running on

@jwittich ARM is totally awesome, and I expect ARM-based apps to become an increasingly large percentage of application portfolios. The price-performance is compelling.

A9: As a buyer, build clear Opex model , and the value you believe you are looking at from Cloud, ask your teams for some comparisons on cloud efficiency targets. Invest in tooling to track those business metrics

A9 we haven't really talked about data/app sovereignty in this chat, but this issue will be more prevalent and drive more multi-cloud use, including use of non-big 3 providers.

@bernardgolden Avoid (sometimes ego-driven) DIY efforts to build your own layers across multiple clouds. With the vendor and OSS energy in this area you likely can't hire/retain/dedicate enough engineers to that kind of effort for enough duration to succeed.

A9: For Executives, Organize hackathons with some DevRel teams from your providers to better understand the value and how to use those tools. You as an executive have to spend time. you can not be hands off.

@bernardgolden Agree

An initial cloud cost estimation is usually 10-100x off. Portability is key. We are in the phase of many UNIX operating systems and the Linux equivalent hasn't been created yet. Plan accordingly.

A9: Very important to look at common Identity and Authorization system across all your systems, tooling, data and use that as a way to simplify multi-cloud design

A8: We’ll continue to see growth for some time with specialization as cloud platforms mature. Plus, vendors like BMC are expanding #cloud use to power #SaaS offerings, so there’s room for growth.

A8: There will be a handful of big enterprise software players like IBM RedHat or VMWare who will be “Switzerland” powering multi-cloud solutions across large hyperscalers. Polycloud workloads and Cross cloud network connectivity will be tablestakes as part of a cloud offering.

A8. A lot more diversity - I mean the right cloud for the right workload. Today the app teams are happy to run in the cloud of their choice. Its Infra, operations and common services that poses as an impediment. Some abstractions can help.

A8: sustainability will become a consideration in multi-cloud choices. hosting workloads in clouds with the most efficient infrastructure for the type of compute/storage/network needed. multi-cloud enables those choices and flexibility

Also it will be interesting to see if the hyperscalers will whole heartedly start building common services for other clouds. Seen that in GCP Anthos, Oracle to Azure interconnects etc - but nothing mainstream.

Q8: explosion, more workloads moving, new apps being written for the cloud with different needs...tools for observability, optimization and security will be critical and talent to manage these will be challenge

@GaneshJKRam Poly-cloud - now I have to look that one up :-).

@jwittich Sustainability will be a big part of decision making

@jwittich Resource optimization (and as a result cost optimization)  will also be key to achieve #sustainability

@GaneshJKRam Well, we (VMware) certainly hope so!

@GaneshJKRam @jwittich Sustainability is THE growing concept.

will be interesting to see how tools evolve over time to account for efficiency. providing better granularity into specific infra choices by workload

A8. Predicting 5 years into IT future is always fun :). More and more SaaS no doubt. Any cloud service will be available in all places, almost nothing will be offered in a way that isnt a service--and this includes on-premises.

@codyhosterman Hard to argue with that.

We should visit this thread in a couple of years :-)

A8: I expect multi-cloud will be somewhat easier for end users, but still quite challenging. After all, we're still early in cloud adoption with plenty of challenges there, and multi-cloud presents additional challenges to the base level of cloud adoption challenges

@ramsba - yes - past statements can come back to haunt :)

We are likely to see more specialized multi-cloud providers that offer vertical specific cloud services (data lakes, analytics, AI/ML, ...) while using the combined buying power of entire verticals to lower costs for their customers.