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The Home as Enterprise Branch
JOIN US: This is a chat-based conversation about COVID-mandated changes in the workplace, including security, networking, collaboration tools--and working far too much using Zoom and Webex.
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Chris Preimesberger
Q3: Are there considerations you should be aware of when moving into a new home or apartment that factor in the home-as-enterprise concept?
David Gewirtz
A3: Definitely. Keep in mind that when you WFH, you're generally doing it full time as your main income...
Gorka Sadowski
Get a fast Internet and a "zoom room" (lol another variation of "zoom" :))
David Gewirtz
A3: … it used to be that the company invested in the infrastructure to buy your cube or office gear. But when you work from home, it's a factory, warehouse, lab, studio, and office.
David Gewirtz
A3: Bandwidth is key. When I bought this house, as part of the diligence process, I put in broadband and tested it. If it had failed, I would not have moved forward with this property.
Gorka Sadowski
A3 -- and talk to your boss to make sure he/she is comfortable managing a remote employee. And talk to HR to understand if the org can help you with special expenses. And talk to IT to make sure that tools will support you at home. And talk to security ...
David Gewirtz
A3: But there's also the need to identify spaces in your home (or potential home) that work with your work needs. Do you need a desk? Or do you need a full testing lab and a studio, as I do? That impacts your purchase or rental decision, too.
Gorka Sadowski
A3b - /and talk to security to make sure that you understand the parameters that you need to abide by. Do you need to access work resources from a sanctioned device, can you use your own personal iPhone, or not, etc.
David Gewirtz
A3: What about internal bandwidth? Do you run cables through the wall for Ethernet or just Wi-Fi? Or a mesh? All of that has to be considered. What about the condition of the power lines? Are they reliable, solid, or ancient?
Daniel Graves
A3: The biggest challenges I hear are enough separate space for all the people. Two parents and 2 kids all working and learning from home. An apartment in SF with 5 renters all on zoom meetings. Not an easy problem to solve, and it is driving some movement to lower cost geos.

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David Gewirtz
A3: We bought our house pre-pandemic so explaining our working from home needs baffled the real estate agents. Today, that would be easier.
Gorka Sadowski
At @Exabeam we did a survey last year where it came out that 49% of all respondents said "most challenging psychological shift when working from home for security teams working remotely" was "distractions in the home making individuals more prone to mistakes"
Vineet Jain
A3. Every company should allow as many meetings without camera turned on and also have at least one day of no meetings IMO
David Gewirtz
A3: Because I do so many online videos and webcasts, we actually cobbled together a light system that indicates whether or not quiet in the house is required. It works, but it's weird. Fortunately, my family understands my odd life.
David Gewirtz
A3: Well, except for the puppy. He doesn't care about work.
Vineet Jain
A3. Since I live in the Bay Area (temperate weather), sitting in the backyard as much as possible leaves me with more energy at the end of the day, as compared to being inside a room,
Daniel Graves
@DavidGewirtz We were contemplated something similar, like the red light 'recording' by the door in music studios :)
David Gewirtz
A3: One thing that's been harder was that a key component of my WFH strategy was writing in coffee shops. It was good when I just needed a change of scenery. Then...2020.
Daniel Graves
@DavidGewirtz I think a lot of people need to work in multiple spaces to stay sane and be productive. So a mix of home, coffee shops, parks, sitting in your car, on a walk etc. are required.

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Gorka Sadowski
A3 -- re: scenery, sometimes changing settings helps with "thinking outside the box", other times it can be a distraction. Depends on the task at hand...
Daniel Graves
A3: which means it's not just about enabling WFH, it's about enabling WFA with productivity, privacy and security.
Chris Preimesberger
Q3: on the way ...
Vineet Jain
A2. Adding to what David says, the cloud apps if done well, have obfuscated the divide that existed between on-prem or cloud, its seamless access to content, or whatever the user is trying to right from their laptop or mobile device
Vineet Jain
A2. Further, the amount of content fragmentation even in the cloud - multiple clouds has mushroomed. There are massive "incidental repositories" like docusign, LOB apps etc - having one unified security/policy framework applied to them without affecting users productivity is key
Vineet Jain
A2. Intuitive user interface is key. As Groka said, Zoom became popular due to ease of use. I had to use webex yesterday in some meeting, and I was struggling :)
Chris Preimesberger
Q2: To what extent is the importance of intuitive, user-friendly software and hardware in daily practice when working from home or at a remote location? Are the tools we now have considered user-friendly enough?
David Gewirtz
A2: Sigh. That depends. Power users will always create the environment they need. And some folks will always have a hard time "getting it" and need some form of semi-divine (or at least IT) intervention.

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David Gewirtz
A2: Zoom also offered a generous free version, so folks can adopt it and get up and running with it fast and without making a big buy decision.
Chris Preimesberger
I think that's why the man at Cisco Systems left to start up Zoom--had to do a lot of with UX!
Gorka Sadowski
A2 -- user expectation will never be the same after the iPhone and Android apps. Users are less and less willing to have big learning curves, convenience is more key... problem is, security has not always been following...
David Gewirtz
A2: Chris, also keep in mind that the cloud (in the form of SaaS apps) has made WFH far more doable. That's kind of UX, because many people just continued to do at home what they did at work. Gmail is Gmail.
Daniel Graves
A2: Modern intuitive consumer experiences set the bar, fairly or not. People acting as employees or customers or partners for any business want the same level of ease of use they experience when ordering an Uber, Venmoing money to a friend, or checking an insurance claim status.
Gorka Sadowski
A2 -- what is kinda new though, is how permeable the frontier is. Meaning, while before it was tolerated that "corporate" tools were a pain to use compared to personal tools, that is not the case anymore
Daniel Graves
A2: And why do enterprises care? Because superior digital experiences that are easy to use translate directly to customer acquisition and customer retention.
David Gewirtz
A2: I'll give you a historical perspective. Back in the dark ages before the cloud, i had a top-performing sales person. She got married and moved across the country.…
David Gewirtz
A2: ...Today, that wouldn't change anything, but then we lost her as a salesperson because our CRM was LAN based and locked on-premise.
Gorka Sadowski
A2 -- this expectation is creating lots of pressure on security. "Security" was not used to having to be user friendly, but now has to get on with the program :)
Vineet Jain
@DavidGewirtz That sounds so ancient :)
David Gewirtz
@CloudNotEnough It was. I have gray hair. :)
Daniel Graves
A2: "user friendly enough" is a rising tide, and successful companies will invest in UX heavily, always raising the bar and using it as a competitive differentiator.
Chris Preimesberger
Q2: coming up ...
Chris Preimesberger
Vineet: "Data Sprawl" is a key term I haven't heard in connection with this too often, although it's obvious. Can you add some color to this thought?
Vineet Jain
My reference is to data across multiple apps, multiple ckouds
Chris Preimesberger
Tossup for everyone:
Q1: Where do you see the most progress in development of current WFH software, hardware and services?
Gorka Sadowski
A1 - That's a great question. I think the current WFH situation is really a forcing point for everyone to understand 1) how to measure work productivity, and 2) how to secure people as an attack channel.
Vineet Jain
A1. Remote work is driving more data sprawl than ever before – we heard from our customers - 67% of IT executives are concerned about unstructured data sprawl, and more than half say remote work is the main culprit.
David Gewirtz
(moving this into the thread) A1: You know, I'd actually say it's something else: acceptance of working from home. WFH has always been a bit of a fringe activity, but now with COVID, acceptance has gone through the roof.
Daniel Graves
A1: I think the most progress has come from a new workplace philosophy. WFH used to be for a subset of work - some workers, some projects, some tasks. Now, companies need to enable all employees, partners, and customers to do everything online.
David Gewirtz
But Gorka is right, the security issue is also a big concern.
Gorka Sadowski
A1 - There has always been -some- WFH, bu the sheer scale of that today, and how organizations have to embrace it is really the difference. Along with the Cloud, it is really the final nail in the coffin of the "security perimeter" as an architectural approach to security.
Vineet Jain
A1. To have more control, data goverance policies getting enforced without getting "in the way" is key. Further, getting the content management architecture right is key. examples files sitting on unsecured devices, data loss, and mismanaged permissions.
David Gewirtz
A1: As for the big tech winner, that has to be video conferencing, and Zoom in particular.

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David Gewirtz
A1: It used to be that getting an exec to do a video interview required long discussion of how to hook up a webcam and get enough bandwidth. Now, webcam use and conferencing is a basic required skill. And that's just in the last 12 months.

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Daniel Graves
A1b: And so the enterprise approach has shifted from a technical approach to enabling remote *workers* (VPN etc.), to a digital approach to enable remote *work* for all parties. A lot more energy on workflow, automation, and overall efficiency.
Vineet Jain
A1. The attack surface has grown exponentially, so even basic things like hardening your routers, keeping anti-virus upto date, centralizing content in one "logically unified" silo are some of the means to meet the security challenges
David Gewirtz
A1: Inside the firewall threat has grown as well. WFH means working with roommates and family, and some of them may not be benign presences on the home network.
Gorka Sadowski
A1 -- Zoom because a verb during Covid, and that is despite all the incumbents and alternatives, Webex, Skype, FaceTime etc etc. Maybe because of the UX?
Chris Preimesberger
Good point, Gorka. When a product becomes a verb, you know you're probably on the right track ... ;-)
Gorka Sadowski
A1 -- it's funny how people and organizations started preferring a relatively unknown vendor (Zoom) with unknown security to more established vendors... just for the name of convenience, some cool backgrounds and filters, and a generally better use experience.
Chris Preimesberger
@db_graves Sidebar for you, Daniel: How can Delphix's DataOps approach be used in this office-to-home desk new world? Is this something the company is working on?