ScalingDevOps

culture, communication and change management aspects, especially if org is new to #Agile as well - acceptance of failure is a tough one for most traditional orgs. Often this leads to lack of expectations management at all levels -> signal: employees exiting

Scaling the value not outcome. Distribute accountability & Long term vision for Value

Should not start from a "big plan" and implement much practice at the same time.

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Change management outside of technology to create the needed common understanding. Lack of capability and skills. Insufficient top-level buy-in to make the changes to financial management and personal incentives.

In my experience, this conversation gets buried a little due to cultural challenges, until its too late

pair them. pair coding is not only for the dev roles, but for all role in a team.

Bring all groups tot he table and focus on the overall outcomes. Value Stream Mapping can help as an exercise. It can also expose friction. However, exposing that friction and dealign with it is necessary to move forward.

work on incentives , upskilling , cross functional & make it a safe place to collaborate & experiment

PI planning, having everyone as part of product planning and grooming stage to make them understand that they are responsible for the product equally.

For the team to take on the other roles there are many changes need to occur in terms of accountability. Switching to a product based delivery from project based helps. Changing the metrics and creating commonality in objectives and how they are measured.

A recent chat regarding security showed me the importance of individual buy in as well as teams and the overall organization

Start with small teams
encourage skill development with a culture of fail fast fail often - then fix it
Support from leadership
As you approach scaled part: clarity across organization on what they want to achieve from DevOps

Pilot Team, start small, technical practice first.

automation is required for any DevOps implementation and more is needed when scaling

Remember the basics: Clarify your outcomes and define your indicators. Start small. Celebrate your wins.

@pgmaddison Good approach Peter - and this would include starting with initial, achievable goals, so that there will be wins to build on

Create a north star - Value , Assess the Challenge , Enact Change

adopt and adapt to cultural change, empower the team with the tools they need and managing risks at the individual level.

Right time to scale, don’t get caught up in complexity before the value

To understand that we need to talk about what does a successful devOps project look like and then consider conditions for scaling it up- To me it’s not so much the right time but
knowing what conditions are needed for success and then,
what you need to get there

DevOps as a transformation of how your organization delivers value will scale naturally as the organization begins to understand and adopt new ways of working.

There is no such thing as right time. Optimization is a continuous process and scaling is done via feedback loops within the organization on what is working and what is not. when there is continuous feedback scaling becomes organic.

Start small and use those initial wins to drive communication across the organization. It is not just an "IT" change. How the organization organizes around technology delivery needs to change too.

You need to tall enough to implement some of the DevOps practice.

optimization is otherwise fail fast, take smart risks.

@vishnube continuous optimization

Scaling DevOps should happen when there is potential for it to pay off, providing value that other solutions can not

Optimizing DevOps is intrinsic to the practices. Continuous learning and optimization is a part of growing your DevOps practices.

Right time to scale, don’t get caught up in complexity before the value

DevOps is a collective journey towards evolution of software practices

Agreed with Garima. This is especially important during the pandemic because customer needs and regulations have been changing quickly and the businesses must be nimble to pivot and serve those needs.

it's a combination of cultural philosophies, practices,process governance, automations, tools that increases the ability to deliver applications and services at high velocity and better software and at the same empower the development and operations teams

Agree.

Its not to tool/job title or a specification .. from the grass root journey perspective

Generic answer: People, processes and tools working
together to enable rapid and continuous
delivery of value to customers.

@vishnube a balance

The tools chain and practice which can ensure the delivery.

Good question! Agreement has not been found so I go Wikipedia:.
DevOps is a set of practices that combines software development (Dev) and IT operations (Ops). It aims to shorten the systems development life cycle & provide continuous delivery with high SW quality

makes things work

Thank you! good morning & welcome everyone!

Morning! Welcome

Good morning everyone - excited to be here to discuss #ScalingDevOps!