John Furrier21
Q6: Describe technical implementation of hybrid clouds you are seeing. What components are involved? Has this changed in the last 6 months?
Andrew Miller
several main areas - 1) some level of automation/orchestration, 2) focus on common data movement/management tools between on/off-premises, 3) tools for visibility into all environments
jeff dinisco
some appliances make it ez, @rubrikinc and @dellEMCIsilon have great stories here
Andrew Miller
for #2 there are notable developments in the last 6 months even...while data has weight, there are more options around handling it between public/private clouds
Keith Townsend - Light will overcome darkness
Look toward the shift in OpenStack. There's no single pane of glass for Hybrid Cloud. It's understanding the unique challenges between the two environments. The focus needs to be on monitoring and ops technologies that integrate vs orchestration.
John Furrier
Followup Question on this topic: does #multicloud impact any of this or is that fantasy at this point
Chris Dagdigian
identity mgmt needs to be solved first. After that comes orchestration, automation and workflow routing/shaping logic
jeff dinisco
for compute, AWS Management Portal for vCenter and @ZeroStackInc have decent stories
Stephen Pao
@chris_dag Agree on identity management for user facing apps. It's why I think early hybrid cloud is IT-facing / back office.
John Furrier
I would be interested in the impact to backup/recovery bc in cloud there aren't the 4-walls of onprem
Keith Townsend - Light will overcome darkness
Your favorite topic! 😀 I think today they are silos. But they play a factor in containerizing operations so that you can manage your IT regardless of platform.
Andrew Miller
@dinisco Ironically this kind of thing is the whole focus of Rubrik
Andrew Miller
@CTOAdvisor +100 - often integration of multiple point solutions vs. the hoped for "single pane of glass" that never really seems to work out
Stephen Pao
#multicloud seems to be driven by different workloads. Azure good with identity; Google for AI/media; AWS overall.
Andrew Miller
are seeing the very beginnings of #multicloud with some of our customers...enabled by data sync/management that can handle multiple clouds. If don't have that, the operational overhead is too high.
Keith Townsend - Light will overcome darkness
@andriven I think there's little hope for a single API let alone a single operations platform. HPE showed a vision with NewStack but it's a vision.
Stephen Pao
@dinisco Also, @IgneousIO focus on hybrid storage cloud! 😀
I am John White
If you don't have a common data, network, and control plane you have note achieved true hybrid cloud. You simply have individual pools of resources.
Stephen Pao
@johna_white Agree. However, you can scope the commonality for an app or a group of apps at a time.
Andrew Miller
@CTOAdvisor Hopefully we get the point of multiple robust API's...so API's are a unifying approach but not a single API per se. At that point external engines can drive everything at least...
JP Morgenthal
The recommendation for multi-cloud is coming from the need to leverage specialized clouds with generic cloud providers, e.g. AWS or Azure front-end for GE Predix