Another question: Does Cisco include data scientists (statistical modelers, data engineers, etc.) in the scope of "developers," or does the latter term refer more narrowly to coders?
Yes! We actually have a pretty broad definition of developers. We include crackerjack coders, data scientists, as well as "operators" who need to be power users of software systems as DevOps and network programmability come to play.
from my current focus on AI-driven supportability, it's essential to *include* Data Scientists. In order to foster & accelerate adoption of Cloud Native apps throughout their lifecycles monitoring signals & logs must be continuously analyzed
@susiewee That's the right scoping. IMHO, "programming" is done by anybody involved in shaping the assets (code, algorithms, biz rules, orchestration paths, etc) that direct and contextualize the flow of control over some end2end process
@Edwin_zh That's the right approach. Developer is anybody who contributes to the design, coding, engineering, implementation, and delivery of a reusable asset.
@valb00 Yes, exactly. What you're describing re AI (monitoring and continuously analyzing signals/logs) is the heart of training the ML/deep learning algos at the heart of these apps. Without continual algo retraining and tweaking of the algos, they decay
From a DevOps standpoint, I think a key app-maintenance issue in development, iteration, and deployment of AI apps in the IoT is the need for continual algo retraining, retweaking, redeployment to all those edge devices. Potential "fog hog"
My question: Can Cisco please break out the dimensions of "apps meet infrastructure"? Is this going to be a "fog computing"/IoT-focused event, infrastructure-wise, or cloud-native apps/infra generally?
The #DevNetCreate#Cloud and #DevOps track looks at: Where Apps meet Microservices, Where Apps meet Security, Where Apps meet Deployment, and Where Apps meet Analytics
@susiewee Where apps meet microservices: Will there be a track at #DevNetCreate focused on visual development of orchestrated containerized microservices? On Kubernetes vs. Mesos vs. Swarm for orchestration? on DevOps tools for it all?
#DevNetCreate will have a talk on moving legacy monolith apps to cloud native micro services architectures on Kubernetes by Dan Kohn and deploying PHP apps to Kubernetes by Michelle Krejci
that kind of 'deep refactoring' a really difficult goal to attain. Very consulting/professional services-heavy project today. Great potential for AI-driven code / architecture refactoring in the (hopefully near) future!
DevNet Create DevNet Create, hosted by Cisco DevNet, is the IoT and Cloud developer conference where applications meet infrastructure. Learn more at devnetcreate.io.
We're starting #DevNetCreate to specifically address the world of IoT and Cloud developers. Specifically, we think the boundaries are changing in how Applications Meet Infrastructure in so many ways
I love the application angle bc their is a massive wave of app development based upon data which powers AI ML and more all enabled by network/digital transformation
And, #DevNetCreate is about the broader ecosystem. our #DevNet events focus on Cisco platforms and APIs. #DevNetCreate is over 90% talks from the industry. It's about the ecosystem
@susiewee Do you define "network and infrastructure programmability" as mostly deterministic code and rules, or do predictive analytics, machine learning, and other probabilistic assets, embedded in apps, constitute a type of "programming" as well?
I love thinking about full lifecycle of entire ecosystem, from prototype, to test, deploy, scale, manage, support, update, retire and renew. The #DevNet#CircleofLife 😎
Welcome everyone! We're here to answer your questions about #DevNetCreate: Cisco's first Developer conference. https://devnetcreate... Where are you joining us from? #DevNet
biggest change Developing Cloud Native apps has been starting the prototyping phase with sprints using #Serverless in order to mock up the functionality with real workflows and dataflows. Vastly improves semantic quality of early app phases
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