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We sometimes solve the same problem in many different ways. If we could agree to solve orchestration as an example in one way we could move on as an industry to the next issue.

There is an open cloud architecture being established in the industry - containers is a foundational element. Lots more to do - open governance and user participation will drive the evolution.

@jrmcgee We need to solve in many ways to innovate, but customers need portability and interoperability to move quickly and solve big problems.

Right now deploying containers in any real way is a snowflake activity. For true portability across cloud you need more than to move a workload. Security, Trust, Audit, all key to appropriate governance.

IMO it's already happening with the advent of @cloudnativefdn?

The next phase of open cloud bring each of the foundational elements closer and closer - openstack, cloud foundry. OCI, CNCF, OpenWhisk, ...

It depends on the user. A startup will required speed and almost no process, while the enterprise will require process, governance and reports, tons of reports rs

+1 I invite everyone interested in the portability of containers and open governance to get involved with @OCI_ORG https://www.opencont...

@mthiele10 clearly containers alone is not enough.. need the full lifecycle of tools around containers to make it real

Many of the existing container strategies revolve around wrapping them in a legacy framework. Risk is that you reduce key benefits & increase overhead.

that's a grand challenge

there is lot more steps to come before open govenance (from current state of containers)

@mthiele10 I think the world is evolving from solutions around hardware to VMs to Containers ... now on to PaaS solutions like #CloudFoundry

I'm seeing here the very fast evolution of Apache Mesos and Docker.

@jrmcgee Absolutely! It's also about time to value. We shouldn't force one thing or the other on the community, but rather provide tools that give them real time to value w/flexibility.

@storming @mthiele10 +1

@cra Great shoutout to the new @OCI_ORG handle, now following!

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The beauty of open tech is that customers influence open tech more than the other way around. Technology emerges from real business need.

Folks do not want to build a dead end cloud - open technology is path to business process flexibility. Who likes cement poured on their applications?

Customers are influencing the #opentech that manages hybrid cloud, not the other way around. Many industries are involved in the #CloudFoundry project.

hybrid creates exit paths from proprietary to open. So desire for @opentech creates demand

Open communities like CNCF help customers evaluate against peers & industry leaders in a safe environment. POCs and use cases drive adoption.

@jrmcgee +1 - ecosystems rule - end users are driving this new open source renaissance. The best open communities have strong user participation and open governance.

I see what I call as snowballing effect of success stories from open source adopters as the biggest influences

@ibmcloud @storming +1 Hybrid is responding to customers that can't/won't migrate entirely to public cloud due 1000s reasons.

All the industry analyst studies about hybrid cloud seem to indicate that hiring skilled and qualified talent is still a big issue -- opentech communities are where the talent can be found

#EcosystemsRule @angelluisdiaz << THISSSS!!!

early adopters try a new tech => find success/ share failures => more try => more successes => community encourages and cheers => momentum builds => influences more customers to adopt => continues

I don't think hybrid is private/public only. it's any-any type of thing. it's about allowing portability

At #CloudFoundry summit we heard from Allstate, Comcast, Verizon, ... all users helping shape the technology they need.

@AngelLuisDiaz I think the concept of governance itself is evolving with the #opentech communities

@IBMCloud this is one of the strengths of the @cloudfoundry community and the work @ab415 is leading

@zehicle Agreed, hybrid is also using different infrastructures like AWS and OpenStack.

@zehicle we can debate on the definition of hbrid all day long :) but more and more multi-cloud is being referred to as hybrid. Which extended, multiple environments/ multiple techs. I may not fully agree

@storming ^this. Users are what makes a product and drive innovation.

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The application (workload) determines how, when and where to leverage Hybrid Cloud.

Newly designed apps using new data sources have the luxury of a cloud native approach. Functionally that's not always possible but when it is you don't need hybrid

Just to see from a different angle, customers should think when is hybrid rt for them as well. Rt now, there is a lot of messaging that sounds like hybrid-fits-all solution

Along with the workload comes the realities of "physics" (e.g. data gravity), compliance, regulations etc.

I Don't think there is an "inappropriate" use of hybrid cloud. It's all about business case & appropriate solution selection. Need to bust assumptions about what is real & what isn't

Inappropriate use of Hybrid is more associated with inadequate biz case or design.

+1 @AngelLuisDiaz and besides there's the customer personal taste. After all customer is king.

I agree with @mthiele10 , you should evaluate the need for hybrid cloud.

+1 @mthiele10 - hybrid is not just multi-infrastructure . it is also about responding to changes

@angelluisdiaz totally.

Absolutely @mthiele10 -- clarity / agreement is a big gap...

@mthiele10 i tend to agree.. how common is it really to start from scratch and connect to nothing you had before?

Hybrid cloud is nothing more than heterogeneous application delivery platforms. It isn't an either or thing. Do you have more than one server OS in your DC?

requirements drive the solution. Trying to prescribe a cloud architecture w/o looking at requirements is a haphazard.

@mthiele10 I agree. It's a capability that you always want at your disposal. How it is applied will inevitably change over time.

@jrmcgee +1. This is where the service broker has a key role to play providing that bridge.

@mthiele10 that kind of tried to simplify the complexity of hybrid.

Appropriate platform distribution provides a combo of benefits; Cost, Latency, Performance, SLA, Location (Sovereignty) and much more.

hybrid can represent the only viable way to empower legacy applications with new services (autoscaling, vision API, machine learning, etc)

some net new cloud native apps may not need hybrid. they could be totally fine with public cloud.

bad hybrid would be "I'm taking my toys and leaving" type of not playing well with others

Hybrid Cloud.... #SharingIsCaring @zehicle

When geographic dispersement, speed /latency, and disposability drive #disruption #CTO