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The application (workload) determines how, when and where to leverage Hybrid Cloud.

Newly designed apps using new data sources have the luxury of a cloud native approach. Functionally that's not always possible but when it is you don't need hybrid

Just to see from a different angle, customers should think when is hybrid rt for them as well. Rt now, there is a lot of messaging that sounds like hybrid-fits-all solution

Along with the workload comes the realities of "physics" (e.g. data gravity), compliance, regulations etc.

I Don't think there is an "inappropriate" use of hybrid cloud. It's all about business case & appropriate solution selection. Need to bust assumptions about what is real & what isn't

Inappropriate use of Hybrid is more associated with inadequate biz case or design.

+1 @AngelLuisDiaz and besides there's the customer personal taste. After all customer is king.

I agree with @mthiele10 , you should evaluate the need for hybrid cloud.

+1 @mthiele10 - hybrid is not just multi-infrastructure . it is also about responding to changes

@angelluisdiaz totally.

Absolutely @mthiele10 -- clarity / agreement is a big gap...

@mthiele10 i tend to agree.. how common is it really to start from scratch and connect to nothing you had before?

Hybrid cloud is nothing more than heterogeneous application delivery platforms. It isn't an either or thing. Do you have more than one server OS in your DC?

requirements drive the solution. Trying to prescribe a cloud architecture w/o looking at requirements is a haphazard.

@mthiele10 I agree. It's a capability that you always want at your disposal. How it is applied will inevitably change over time.

@jrmcgee +1. This is where the service broker has a key role to play providing that bridge.

@mthiele10 that kind of tried to simplify the complexity of hybrid.

Appropriate platform distribution provides a combo of benefits; Cost, Latency, Performance, SLA, Location (Sovereignty) and much more.

hybrid can represent the only viable way to empower legacy applications with new services (autoscaling, vision API, machine learning, etc)

some net new cloud native apps may not need hybrid. they could be totally fine with public cloud.

bad hybrid would be "I'm taking my toys and leaving" type of not playing well with others

Hybrid Cloud.... #SharingIsCaring @zehicle

When geographic dispersement, speed /latency, and disposability drive #disruption #CTO

Where aren't we seeing it. Orchestration, Management, Policy, Scripting, and more.

companies are working together to make hybrid cloud work. They working together on open source solutions like #CloudFoundry

Open technology is essential for "Choice with consistency" - that allows for IaaS, PaaS, APIs etc. to run across topologies and multi-clouds.

What I see is the biggest change in perception both from vendors and customers about the need for hybrid cloud and how open techs like OpenStack, CloudFoundry are filling that.

@storming Good point on @cloudfoundry - essential for multi-clouds

and not to miss k8s/ containers space as well

The issue is still the immaturity of many of the solutions. The ability to build a total solution that provides appropriate capability, security, & management is tough

@mthiele10 +1 - workloads determine how to start and where to place applications. Hybrid gives them the power to actual do this.

It's hard to imagine a successful hybrid or multi-cloud underpinned by anything other than open technology

@sriramhere Agreed but containers are just part of the solution. Managing containers is the next problem to solve.

+1 @storming -- big opportunities there

I see it in companies starting to push collaboration across the open source foundations (CFF, CNCF, OCI, Openstack)

Yes Containers are open but they lack many of the assumed management capabilities associated with more established solution. Extra help needed.

@duncanjw Excellent one @duncanjw !!

Also, we are seeing more playing nice with open tech solutions from proprietary source vendors. Case in point, Azure trying to play nice with open source

Indeed. In Brazil vmware is been substituted by Openstack (but we're seeing also Hyper-V rising)

@angelluisdiaz which is a great segue into policies driving this placement be it for governance & compliance, performance or some other driver

More so that Open or not, is whether you can manage w/security & trust at scale. W/o that you're potentially building something with thousands of new risk vectors

we're seeing open platforms (@kubernetesio) that people want to pull hybrid

We’ll also be discussing the intersection of #opentech & #hybridcloud

Today’s panelists: @AngelLuisDiaz, @DuncanJW, @JRMcGee, @Storming, @DuncanJW, @CRA, @Zehicle, @mthiele10 & @sriramhere

Let's begin!

Hey everyone! Excited for our chat with all of these cool cats!

What a great lineup of panelists @angelluisdiaz ! Excited for #IBMOCA on June 22nd!

my favorite topics! hybrid, cloud and open!

.. and what great topics they are @zehicle! (We should have an event about those things....!)