TruePrivateCloud

care to elaborate?

AWS is building virtual private clouds, Azure is providing full hw/sw on-prem stack, GCE hopes federation of on-prem kubernetes becomes their private cloud solution. Which 1 will work?

AWS calls
"Private Cloud" = "Dedicated Compute" so I guess mixing dedicated/non-dedicated compute is hybrid?

@Phil_Dunn1 the team at Wikibon had to squint thru lots of vendor definitions & talk to "Do-ers" to come up with its def'n

I want to see if Azure MAS gets any traction. I'd rather build it on VMware or RedHat than go back to them

Is #Azure biased toward private vs public?

@furrier Azure is biased toward Microsoft. And, if you are doing well they will compete with you (at some point)

.@PlatenReport My guess is MS will seed accounts with the azure stack & provide parity over time btwn azure stack & azure cloud.

@PlatenReport My assumption is they want their legacy to stay onprem; oracle is going the other way?

@furrier I think they realize that rewriting decades old applications is impractical and DataCenterZero is not attainable so they must live in two worlds

@furrier Microsoft's best weapon is their Marketing Department...until they innovate via Microsoft Research, they will always be a follower

I think the market has room for multiple approaches.

@PlatenReport good insight on the live in two worlds angle

AWS is driving the market as they are listening to customers and combining it with strategic priorities.Sprinkle in execution and the fireworks began. Remember OpenStack was going to get them...LOL

Kind of sad for Google that they aren't more in this discussion. I wish Diane all the best to focus them on the Enterprise

Google doesn't believe in participating outside of Google+

also, IBM may have a final word on this discussion as they move at the speed of their customer which isn't very fast LOL

yes - here's our first pass: http://wikibon.com/t...

@dvellante There's a data fabric thing I can pitch in here that NetApp are doing right? Total mobility between on-prem, MSP, hyperscaler, etc, with common data format & control plane between them all

Thanks for the link to this Dave: http://wikibon.com/t...

pitch away...personally I see this notion of "data fabric" as very powerful

@mo6020 this idea of a "Digital Fabric" has impacted our thinking in the Wikibon community - https://leadingedgef...

@dvellante It's got to be key to peoples cloud strategies going forwards... #HotelCalifornia #DataFabric

+1 on data fabric

@mo6020 can you elaborate...I see there being a horizontal data layer in the digital fabric - thinking open source, data lakes, hadoop, spark, machine learning, public data sources...

@dvellante Just moving workloads and datatypes between different platforms and architectures transparently. Don't like your AWS bill anymore? Bring it in-house without disruption, & vice-versa...

@mo6020 @dvellante Classic problem is you're stuck in the public cloud once you have outgrown the benefits, hence the hotel california reference

Data and storage functions that are independent of hardware. A fluid existence.... I posted this youtube on it yesterday https://youtu.be/68Y...

@mo6020 If it was only as easy is that! But that’s the problem, you're not running same identical AWS infrastructure on premise so migrating is problematic.

@Phil_Dunn1 "It depends"

Hybrid is part of true private cloud. The level of connection between the TPC and PC will vary, from simple connection to (say) S3, to backup and recover, through to integrated PaaS microservices

Expectation is that most hybrid will be pretty simple to begin with.

Love it - @bgracely naming the horses on the track #cloud

How was this calculated? What were some factors influencing it?

And why isn't Oracle on here?

Interesting to see Nutanix in the pie. They have an HCI but do they actually have a cloud solution?

+1 Does Nutanix have true private cloud APIs and automated mgmt?

@kenhuiny They have some sort of cloud connect, I don't know loads about it though...

@kenhuiny Agree! HCIA does not equal #trueprivatecloud to me

@Phil_Dunn1 I can surmise that Oracle's TPC revenue didn't hit the top 10 and is in "other" @stu @bgracely can address

is there a breakdown on how each of the vendors adhere to the wikibon definition of TPC? Some curious entries there

@dvellante Seriously? And Nutanix/Netapp has? Would be nice to understand exactly what is classification.

@Phil_Dunn1 here's the definition...we also used Oracle's public statements around cloud revenue http://wikibon.com/t...

@Phil_Dunn1 feel free to share oracle data

@DBAStorage the chart actually looks more like the CI/HCI market, than cloud

@dvellante So wouldn't all of Oracle Engineered Systems be included? We've been positioning Eng systems for private cloud for last few years. That’s ~$2.8BN in 2015

@Phil_Dunn1 @stu is kind of answering now...I believe it's because they're not counting the database $$

The $2.8BN in Engineered Systems is pure HW revenue. SW license revenues that run on ES is separate and clearly a lot higher.

@gofarley Yes

@dfloyer Thanks, I'll look into it

@Phil_Dunn1 we are counting from hypervisor down, and only the % that meet the M&O criteria of TPC. So, no database revenue and more like 20% of the rest.