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my take is: 1/ economic pressure fm public cloud; 2/ agility comparable to public cloud; 3/ building a more modern infr. to support digital buildouts

Key issues include transforming the application development environment

@PlatenReport Floyd Strimling says "Finding the resources and talent to build and operate a private cloud. Add in cultural changes and its a lot to ask an Enterprise"

@stu nice call out for Floyd @PlantenReport

Self-service, standardised, automated service provisioning, for me...

Agree. One of main characteristics of public cloud is ability to spin up a VM in seconds (minutes). With on prem/private cloud, that requires automation and self service capabilities. Even better - a storefront.

@AugatHDS + chargeback

Agree, backend reporting / chargeback for #TPC providers is crucial

I like that definition though almost private cloud can meet that standard since AWS has moved beyond just self-service of infrastructure...

Lawrence Hecht ‏@LawrenceHecht RT'd Brandon Butler @BButlerNWW comment "off-premises can still be private cloud, so don't get too excited about public cloud"

.@gofarley ... AWS now is also about providing higher level services that let business build and deploy apps more quickly & easily.

@kenhuiny There's an argument here about is true cloud PaaS rather than IaaS though, right? Obfuscation of service from underlying VM/hardware...

@kenhuiny very true, but many companies would probably be happy with AWS circa 2010 in their data center

.@bgracely Good point though i wonder if containers & what they enable is changing those expectations.

.@mo6020 There can different types of clouds. Question is do they deliver on the values of enabling businesses to go fast through technology.

@kenhuiny Agree

Gracely says: 1/ We're beginning to see Do-ers separate virtualization environments from private clouds

2/ Counting this was difficult - lots of different defn's and marketing around private cloud

3/ TPC is 3-4X *smaller* than public cloud

Public Cloud IaaS is 3.5x as large as Private Cloud (counting like for like capabilities). surprising, a people assume all the money is still in the data center

@stu adds 4/ Looks like there is $300B in *labor costs* that will shift to vendor R&D #cloud

Arguably, "cloud" in general is a delivery vehicle for IT outcomes. Public cloud does this over the wire (infrastructure matters less). For private cloud, a service catalog associated with SLAs (outcomes) should be required to be called "true"

Another observation is the importance of edge computing, especially as IoT starts to grow - our view is that these will become "Edge private clouds". These links to sensors, data reduction, fast response times to people and other local systems.

I think "true" private cloud is a continuation of the "having a virtualised datacenter is not a private cloud" thing people have been saying for a while

I love it @bgracely but I'm biased - seems to me the real differentiation is automation levels

Main reason we called it "True Private Cloud" is that most "Private Clouds" aren't standardized, nor do they deliver on the simplicity or automation that a cloud service should deliver

@mo6020 Yes and we tried to put some rigor around that an actually forecast it - and do some market shares #cloud

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Automation levels + SLAs + usage based + self service

@furrier Beats "Mike & Mike"

Looks like SDS is a core foundation, for both storage and management/automation. Also looks like it's a step above HCIA as I associate #TruePrivateCloud with Enterprise/Rackscale requirements.

I love the term "Do-ers" to describe users

The key bullet is "Enables end-users (developers, line-of-business, etc.) to have self-service access to resource-pools and have visibility to internal costs or IT chargeback pricing." Allowing user to go fast without being hampered by legacy IT processes.

Agree Ken, and that seems to be a key gap with a lot of solutions today.

@kenhuiny 100% agree

"All maintenance of sw and hw, up to and including at least the virtualization layer, is managed by the vendor" and the CI requirements would rule out many VMware or OpenStack private clouds managed by the end user on existing equipment

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excited to discuss this notion of true cloud - #cloud #cloudcomputing

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One of the key enablers of cost reduction and functionality of true private cloud is the movement of much of the $300Billion spent on Enterprise IT operations to vendor R&D and volume sales.

True private cloud is vendor responsibility for IT infrastructure maintenance, upgrades, integration with public cloud etc., with enterprise IT and lines of business focusing on applications and business value

Vendors will then have the motivation to simplify, improve maintenance and upgrade procedures (instead of using them as a gravy train) and use volume to improve infrastructure availability and reliability

A management element seems key to "true private cloud" - the idea is to "shift risk" back to the vendor.

A usage based model also shifts financial risk

Vendors will come in all shapes and sizes for different countries, different verticals and different business processes - and many vendors will become OEM suppliers of important piece parts

@Phil_Dunn1 Hi Phil - you were asking about Oracle - Oracle is in other at the moment - we expect them to become a bigger player as they introduce their cloud services in 2016 and beyond