DellEMC

Dell's Mega EMC/VMware Deal
Dell's record-breaking $67B buyout of EMC will create a ~$75B enterprise tech giant...Let's discuss
Jerry Chen
The second order effects of #Dell/EMC will be interesting. Namely, what does HP, Oracle, and Cisco do? Do they buy someone? Does anyone NetApp? AWS & Azure looking smarter and smarter.
John Furrier
. @jerrychen will this be a boom for M&A or stall it; three big buyers now off the market imo ???
John Furrier
. @jerrychen gr8 point maybe Microsoft #Azure wins big here
John Furrier
GE will be interesting to see their Pivotal deal play out?
Greg A. Lato
@furrier GE Software buying Pivotal services side fixes Pivotal rev balance & gives GE instant external services arm they claimed was long term goal. Only if Pivotal IPO still planned.
John Furrier
Jerry Chen ‏@jerrychen says
OH "If this doesn't work out, at least you can run for President." cc @alexrkonrad @furrier
John Furrier
@latoga Pivotal shareholders should be worried imo
Leo Leung
- agree - MSFT started investing billions in their own data centers and cloud customers years ago - the others couldn't make up their minds - hard to buy your way out of that.
John Furrier
@lleung Dell EMC can build their own servers/storage/networks too and have software to boot
Leo Leung
@furrier - you need to make a $4B+ annual commitment to data centers (more to catch up), plus a sales force motivated to sell it - not just tech to build it.
Muddu Sudhakar
@furrier Cisco or IBM need to buy Netapp. Netapp is also struggling for many years
Tony Castaldo
I think Netapp goes away, Oracle becomes the niche player in hardware, HP continues muddling around shrinking in the market. Cisco is the question, what next for them. They already messed up their storage play, UCS is very expensive solution.
Muddu Sudhakar
Which startup companies will be BIGGEST losers from DELL & EMC deal? Nutanix, Mirantis, Cumulus networks, who else??
Brian Gracely
Nutanix has the biggest exposure. SolidFire has some exposure.
Keith Townsend - Light will overcome darkness
we haven't even mentioned any of the other HCI players such as Simplivity
Keith Townsend - Light will overcome darkness
@bgracely I wonder how many of these DELL OEM/Reseller deals are sitting out there.
Girish Gurudutt
thought nutanix is working with msft >
Girish Gurudutt
they will only get more traction >>
Tom Hollingsworth
How do you see Cumulus losing here? EMC brings no networking to the table and Dell can continue existing partnerships with Cumulus / Big Switch.
Muddu Sudhakar
Vmware NSX will kill Cumulus and Big switch partnerships.
Muddu Sudhakar
DELL will adopt VMware/NSX based SDN in short term
Tom Hollingsworth
Cumulus stands to win here. NSX still needs to run on *something*. Plus, it's aimed at high-end overlays. DC plumbing still needs ports.
Jordi Benet
Agree, Cumulus wins here. #Dell white box switches run Cumulus. IMO the loser is #AristaNetworks
Muddu Sudhakar
Cumulus concept of white box switches has not going well for last 1 year - if you look at growth and revenue
Muddu Sudhakar
May be NSX + Cumulus can be joined together to create value for SDN+white box switches
Jim Lundy
The Dell Software Group is the big winner in this deal.
Anurag Agrawal
Yes. But the quick question is will it enable Dell to have a real #Bigdata play beyond the analytics of Statistica?
John Furrier
great point - I wonder about EMC Ventures vs Dell Ventures
Muddu Sudhakar
How long VMware will stay public company? It is better VMware go private and invest in R&D to compete better with AWS, Azure..
Brian Gracely
going private would require a large debt load. where would they find the R&D investment funds?
Muddu Sudhakar
they need to buy remaining 19% of VMware which they can finance over next 1 year
John Furrier
VMware is the great opportunity with Pivotal I would keep them together
Girish Gurudutt
to me think vmware with pivotal should have been combined and not sold all together >>
Muddu Sudhakar
I think Dell and EMC merger still misses to target Public cloud opportunity that AWS, Azure, Google are driving growth.
Anurag Agrawal
and not to forget IBM SoftLayer
Muddu Sudhakar
IBM softlayer is not in same level/category
Anurag Agrawal
Yes, but if it is a shot aimed at IBM then this must have figured somewhere in thinking
Muddu Sudhakar
Will Dell merge Vmware or Open stack to create powerful open source management stack and use VMware for hypervisor/data path?
Keith Townsend - Light will overcome darkness
No. There's absolutely no incentive to do so.
Muddu Sudhakar
Incentive is to create leading openstack+Vmware combined solution.
Keith Townsend - Light will overcome darkness
I think VMware already has the leading VMware+OpenStack combined solution. VMware customers don't want OpenStack and OpenStack users don't want VMware.
Girish Gurudutt
think vmware with google; salesforce can provide lot more value to the customer and the shareholders ?? need to fix SP - unlock more innovation ??
Muddu Sudhakar
What about Public cloud play? Will EMC Virtustream+ Vcloud Air + Dell Public cloud business compete with AWS or Microsoft Azure?
John Furrier
. @smuddu they would have to cobble together something very fast. diseconomies of scale will be a big issue vs #AWS #revinvent
Girish Gurudutt
is hybrid the future ?
Sean
AWS is significantly larger than all of those combined. DMC would need to burn significant (multi-billion) to even try to compete.
Anurag Agrawal
Honestly, Dell at the senior management level neither has expertise, nor has been focused on a public cloud strategy. But the deal should give them new executives with experience to make a viable play.
Brian Gracely
@AnuragTechaisle who in EMC are they acquiring with large public cloud experience? Virtustream was nice business, but not at the scale of AWS/Azure. Scale makes all new rules.
Girish Gurudutt
@AnuragTechaisle the need of the hour is expertise and leadership to integrate products; complete the stack ?
Girish Gurudutt
@AnuragTechaisle will people building s/w platforms make better fit ?
Anurag Agrawal
@bgracely That is exactly the dilemma. Which is why Michael Dell's narrative on CNBC played up the server business, not the cloud business.
Brian Gracely
he reiterated the Private Cloud mantra on the analysis call this morning.
Muddu Sudhakar
Dell Private cloud play will include Vmware + Open stack. It cannot be just VMware
Muddu Sudhakar
Vmware and Dell Openstack (open source) business need to merge to develop powerful product line for customers
John Furrier
I think this could be a great thing for Openstack or it will make it stuck in the mud.
Rob Steele
@furrier everyone will have their own OpenStack play, would be silly not to
Muddu Sudhakar
Dell can create powerful open stack + Vmware combination; They can become leaders and beat HP and Cisco. Mirantis is BIG looser here
Rob Steele
VMware already has an integrated OpenStack offering.