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Dell's Mega EMC/VMware Deal
Dell's record-breaking $67B buyout of EMC will create a ~$75B enterprise tech giant...Let's discuss
Jim Lundy
The Dell Software Group is the big winner in this deal.
Anurag Agrawal
Yes. But the quick question is will it enable Dell to have a real #Bigdata play beyond the analytics of Statistica?
John Furrier
great point - I wonder about EMC Ventures vs Dell Ventures
Muddu Sudhakar
How long VMware will stay public company? It is better VMware go private and invest in R&D to compete better with AWS, Azure..
Brian Gracely
going private would require a large debt load. where would they find the R&D investment funds?
Muddu Sudhakar
they need to buy remaining 19% of VMware which they can finance over next 1 year
John Furrier
VMware is the great opportunity with Pivotal I would keep them together
Girish Gurudutt
to me think vmware with pivotal should have been combined and not sold all together >>
Muddu Sudhakar
I think Dell and EMC merger still misses to target Public cloud opportunity that AWS, Azure, Google are driving growth.
Anurag Agrawal
and not to forget IBM SoftLayer
Muddu Sudhakar
IBM softlayer is not in same level/category
Anurag Agrawal
Yes, but if it is a shot aimed at IBM then this must have figured somewhere in thinking
Muddu Sudhakar
Will Dell merge Vmware or Open stack to create powerful open source management stack and use VMware for hypervisor/data path?
Keith Townsend - Light will overcome darkness
No. There's absolutely no incentive to do so.
Muddu Sudhakar
Incentive is to create leading openstack+Vmware combined solution.
Keith Townsend - Light will overcome darkness
I think VMware already has the leading VMware+OpenStack combined solution. VMware customers don't want OpenStack and OpenStack users don't want VMware.
Girish Gurudutt
think vmware with google; salesforce can provide lot more value to the customer and the shareholders ?? need to fix SP - unlock more innovation ??
Muddu Sudhakar
What about Public cloud play? Will EMC Virtustream+ Vcloud Air + Dell Public cloud business compete with AWS or Microsoft Azure?
John Furrier
. @smuddu they would have to cobble together something very fast. diseconomies of scale will be a big issue vs #AWS #revinvent
Girish Gurudutt
is hybrid the future ?
Sean
AWS is significantly larger than all of those combined. DMC would need to burn significant (multi-billion) to even try to compete.
Anurag Agrawal
Honestly, Dell at the senior management level neither has expertise, nor has been focused on a public cloud strategy. But the deal should give them new executives with experience to make a viable play.
Brian Gracely
@AnuragTechaisle who in EMC are they acquiring with large public cloud experience? Virtustream was nice business, but not at the scale of AWS/Azure. Scale makes all new rules.
Girish Gurudutt
@AnuragTechaisle the need of the hour is expertise and leadership to integrate products; complete the stack ?
Girish Gurudutt
@AnuragTechaisle will people building s/w platforms make better fit ?
Anurag Agrawal
@bgracely That is exactly the dilemma. Which is why Michael Dell's narrative on CNBC played up the server business, not the cloud business.
Brian Gracely
he reiterated the Private Cloud mantra on the analysis call this morning.
Muddu Sudhakar
Dell Private cloud play will include Vmware + Open stack. It cannot be just VMware
Muddu Sudhakar
Vmware and Dell Openstack (open source) business need to merge to develop powerful product line for customers
John Furrier
I think this could be a great thing for Openstack or it will make it stuck in the mud.
Rob Steele
@furrier everyone will have their own OpenStack play, would be silly not to
Muddu Sudhakar
Dell can create powerful open stack + Vmware combination; They can become leaders and beat HP and Cisco. Mirantis is BIG looser here
Rob Steele
VMware already has an integrated OpenStack offering.
Girish Gurudutt
market cap of google is much more than 75 billion; if federation is the backend / cloud of the world how much it is valuable ??
Niran Even-chen
Interesting "The deal includes a provision that allows EMC to seek a better offer for the next 60 days" http://news.yahoo.co...
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John Furrier
60 days is not a lot of time
Niran Even-chen
Crazier things happened (See Dell EMC deal)
John Furrier
. @NiranEC who the hell can even come up with this kind of cabbage??
John Furrier
Poll Question: Overall winning deal or will this be a bust? Sound off here on crowdchat thread.
de-cen-tra-liz-ed
overpriced, imho, but it's not my money on the table #vmware down 10+% http://www.google.co... at the moment
Girish Gurudutt
think Federation put together with ecosystem is far more valuable..
Rob Steele
I think its a vanilla deal, but will cause some stir in the IT realm.
John Furrier
the channel upside is huge and the supply chain expertise of Dell might create huge opportunity for a new class of OpenCompute like servers/storage/networking #gamechanger huge leap potential
Girish Gurudutt
am not convinced about the overlap ?? federation needs to think about positioning ??
Phil Dunn
I say bust. Its too late and Dell taking on too much debt. Sure its nice being private to hide all the financials but customers will see through this. EMC & VMWare strength was being independent, able to partner with everyone, now only with Dell
Girish Gurudutt
hardware is commodity ?? we are moving towards #SDDC and software defined social business !! coupling ??
Keith Townsend - Light will overcome darkness
I say neither. Big mergers don't work. But there's enough money in revenue to keep Dell/Silverlake for taking a loss. Business will stay flat for a few more years. What happens around Dell from smaller players will be interesting.
Girish Gurudutt
federation needs to build the OS for the cloud ?? social / mobile / analytics / cloud ?? IoT. Integrate dev/mfg;mktg/sales ??
Girish Gurudutt
@herrod can the federation be the choice of the cloud - alternative to microsoft ? not hypervisor ? OS with container mgmt >>
Anurag Agrawal
One point everyone is missing (by gowing into weeds of technology capablities/overlaps) is that the deal gives Dell tremendous inroads into the enterprise segment which complements Dell's hegemony in small & midmarket businesses
John Furrier
. @AnuragTechaisle agree and supply chain is huge too.
Anurag Agrawal
Yes, after acquiring Perot Systems Dell ws able to successfully put Chiquita labels on bananas. Should be able to do something similar again.
Michael G. Nelson
It depends on if each business can act on its self interests.