HWandSWTogether

Integrated Systems v. BYO
Join us to discuss the benefits of an integrated stack v. build your own w/multiple suppliers.
Oracle Hardware
What are the advantages when storage, database, and apps are co-engineered together?
Oracle Hardware
Does such integration matter when evaluating storage systems? Does it deliver any real-world performance or efficiency benefits?
Rey Perez
From a pure CAPEX perspective engineered systems can deliver a 40% cost reduction without compression benefits.
Howard Curzman
One of the most transformative business advantages is the ability to have on demand business analytics / insight for workloads that traditionally ran overnight.
Mohan Desai
easier to deploy, easier to manage and easier to support
Kate Islas
The integrated storage/DB is one of biggest advantage. Many perf and interoperability problems stem from server to external storage connectivity - especially scaling data growth
Kelvin Gee
The best advantage of engineered systems is increased reliability and ease of maintenance because supposedly all the problems of stack integration have already been worked out by one vendor. Once you have that you can start to fine tune.
Kelvin Gee
Commodity solutions are just that. They offer flexibility & lower cost at the expense of higher performance. Commodity will always mean lowest common denominator. You will never equal the perf. of a complete "stack engineered" solution.
Jeff Frick
This guy seems to like like the integrated strategy.
https://twitter.com/esultant/status/439086924083388416
esultant
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Rey Perez
It should be noted, all integrated strategies are not created equal. SAP and Microsoft PARTNER to make their software work with hardware. Oracle ENGINEERS software and hardware, this is unique and delivers sustainable value to the end customer.
John Furrier
Question for Oracle folks: So is the discussion about running Oracle applications on Oracle systems all about IT efficiency or are there other considerations?
Jeff Frick
https://twitter.com/JLOracle/status/439064061264035840
JLOracle
Interesting pdf from VLDB describing some of the more recent approaches to parallelism used by Oracle: http://t.co/CL9W6g4Jum
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Harish venkat
It has multiple effects, efficiency being one. Time to value is really big - there are too many external influence that is creating a sense of urgency to adapt. e.g. mobility, social, analytics
Oracle Hardware The University of Central Florida like to say they took their students and staff out of line by enabling them to go online. Look at what they’ve been able to make happen.
Oracle Hardware Colleges are competing with each other for the best students. The student experience is something that they can use social media and mobile to make their case for choosing their programs.
Harish venkat
Here's a video showcasing University of central Florida using Oracle SW and HW together to innovate their campus solution
Harish venkat
UCF Oracle Applications Together with Oracle Systems
Harish venkat
http://medianetwork.oracle.com/video/player/3059826738001
UCF Oracle Applications Together with Oracle Systems
The University of Central Florida gets better business results running Oracle PeopleSoft together with Oracle Systems.
Rey Perez
Most organizations that build their own integrated stack continue to be challenged with the rate at which they can innovate solutions. Many focus on the acquisition costs vs the cost of keeping those systems running.
John Furrier
Software drives this an more and more value is become in software. Agree on the cost of running those systems. esp commodity hw lots of hidden costs.. for some that's ok some it's not at all
Mohan Desai
agree-things can become complex very quickly as business requirements start changing and it becomes difficult to keep BOB integrated
Kate Islas
Agree. Integrated systems along w/ new deployment models like public/private clouds or financing models can lower cost of entry - and shrink the ROI payback window
Jeff Frick
Are there specific applications where the delta between an Integrated approach and BYO than others?
Jeff Frick
And what if BYO is BOB?
Jeff Frick Build your Own vs Best of Breed, & I don't mean the old MSFT Browser thing Bob. ;-)
Crowd Captain BYO = Build your own; and BoB = Best of Breed
John Furrier
I am seeing large enterprises going for purpose built. IBM sold their low end servers to Lenovo and focusing on optimized systems. Steve Mills validated that appliances (or purpose built) is the winning formula
Oracle Hardware
Integrated approach doesn't preclude best of breed but that is one of the points to look at if you consider an integrated approach
Carl ray
Gartner's "Ten Trends and Technologies to Impact IT" article talks about this trend, saying IT is getting too complex to be buying at the component level, and more companies are looking for vendors they can trust to do this integration.
Oracle Hardware
As far as applications, the areas that show the greatest potential are enterprise wide, mission critical like Financials, HR, Merchandising, etc.
Oracle Hardware
One of the drivers is that organizations have fixed resources of time as well as money but time is always finite
Mohan Desai
BOB is even better if it comes pre-integrated
Oracle Hardware
So if you can imagine the benefits of being able to time to your team. For example, what would your team do with an additional 4 hrs a week for each member of your staff
Oracle Hardware
Or, what would it mean if you could complete your supply chain plan in less than an hour than overnight. You can run it during the day and adjust to unforeseen changes
Howard Curzman
There are several areas where an integrated approach will drive unique and extended value due to the optimizations developed across each layer of the stack. OLTP, Batch, and In Memory workloads in particular.
Kate Islas
Any standard processes (GL, HR, etc) with big batch reports or heavy transactions. But even customers innovating custom java apps, see huge adv w/ with integrated DB or MW platform
Oracle Hardware
Enter your questions and thoughts in a threaded manner. Remember to vote for the thread or comments that you like
John Furrier
First Question for discussion: Garter has said that most organizations spend over 60% of their budget keeping the lights on and around 15% on innovation. Thoughts?
Phil Dunn
Is there a presentation you'll be presenting or just a discussion based on your questions?
John Furrier this is discussion open forum I'll post questions and feel free to post your own
Jeff Frick Why IronMan? Sure there's a story.
Jeff Frick
seems like a very high number
Oracle Hardware
There isn't a formal presentation. We'll just be discussing points of view and responding
Oracle Hardware
We also look forward to questions from the crowd
Crowd Captain
I think that scale out on commodity hardware is something that is gaining traction but it's not always optimized lots of innovation still needed in that market. Purpose built systems are winning with software driving value
Harish venkat
How can business innovate keeping this equation for IT resources? We have to re-balance this equation where we can free up resources that are used up for "Reactive, keeping the lights on" type of activities to "proactive and innovative"
Phil Dunn
So do you think that’s why everyone is looking to go to the cloud? To reduce OPEX?
Oracle Hardware Cloud is a means to an end to obtain agility at a low cost so you can quickly respond to changes in requirements, changes in customer attitude. Agility and responsiveness are the issues, not where the system resides.
Mohan Desai - cloud is part of most people's IT strategy but it doesn't replace integrated systems- both have their place in modern DC
Harish venkat
Here's a video that brings context to what we are discussing today.
Harish venkat
http://medianetwork.oracle.com/video/player/3092316277001
Oracle Systems: Together with Oracle Applications
Learn how running Oracle applications on Oracle systems can help you deliver maximum value to your customers and achieve dramatically better business results.
Oracle Hardware
Complexity is the enemy of the efficiency, insight and flexibility which is needed to be responsive to changing conditions. Simplifying IT puts you in position to shift your resources to more innovative efforts.
Dave Vellante
there's an IT labor problem - all that non-differentiated heavy lifting is killing IT organizations
Kate Islas
Is Gartner advising clients on how to create new/better KPIs to measure the impact of IT to the business? ie. beyond just typical OpEx (support, environmentals, admin)
Oracle Hardware
Today we are going to be discussing a range of topics, including ways to maximize business innovation and IT efficiency
Oracle Hardware
Welcome to the Integrated Systems vs Build Your Own CrowdChat
Crowd Captain
Welcome to the Maximizing Business Innovation and It Efficiency Crowd Chat. Enter questions or topics and reply in a threaded manner. Remember to vote for the thread or comments that you like. Best votes sort to the top.
John Furrier
Welcome to the Oracle Integrated Systems CrowdChat with experts in Oracle apps on Oracle hardware