VCChat

AMA: NEA VC Pete Sonsini
Investing in the Enterprise in the Cloud and Data Era. Investments in Databricks, MapR, Tintri, NGIX
   9 years ago
#VCchatAMA: Redpoint VenturesScott Raney and Tomasz Tunguz will discuss funding, building, & scaling startups
John Furrier
almost 10 mins left.. Pete and other VCs: any questions for the crowd here?
Paul Gillin
Are we in an investment bubble?
pete sonsini
valuations will revert to the mean at some point but sorry I just don't know when; we are still actively doing deals at all stages so it's not holding @neavc back there are too many great opportunities every day
John Furrier
What is MapR's valuation?
Christopher Kusek
To the points being made earlier. You want to invest in something which will gain customer adoption. We as customers want you to invest in something we will USE vs dollars thrown at a pipe dream which will never see the light of day.
pete sonsini
we spend a lot of time speaking with customer prospects before investing in any deal; its the most important data we can act on. And conviction around entrepeneur's ability to execute is part of the same conversation. each time.
Christopher Kusek
I'd hope so too. But (not your fault) I see a lot of dead weight try to come to market with Ill-equipped mgmt and can't help but feel, wow. What a waste.
John Furrier
Pete just laid down the secret to getting VC funding right here - simple algo
Nick Howell
If a company is not listening to its install base, they're doing it wrong. Regardless of startup or veteran.
pete sonsini
we like to see the entrepreneur go the distance; that is always the default at @neavc
John Furrier
@datacenterdude this is best time ever in the enterprise imo; fake products get dumped fast; and startups are being welcomed into the Enteprise with cloud
Christopher Kusek
@datacenterdude yes nick but how often do we see major enterprises not listen to their customers. I bet VMware customers were hankering for a price increase which flew below the radar. :)
Nick Howell
I'll repeat what I said earlier. Yay Capitalism!
John Furrier
Question on M&A? Its hot right now. Where will we see the buying up of startups who can't make it public or better off in a big company portfolio?
Mark 'Rizzn' Hopkins
I'm curious about the VC's perspective on what may trigger the next M&A frenzy like we saw in 2010, while we're on the topic of M&A.
Aaron Jacobson
IPO markets need to cool down for private M&A to pick up. Multiples in private markets are just too far ahead of historical M&A multiples. Acquirers need to justify M&A through ROI and high multiples means longer paybacks.
John Furrier
I would add that some companies are features for the big dogs who are retooling due to the shift to cloud, mobile, data etc
Christopher Kusek
Given how consistent the enterprise space is with, "me too" solutions which are essentially carbon copy of everyone else, what kinds of offerings do you see proposed based on customer problems and not competitively similar proposals.
Christopher Kusek
To that point. Is there interest and funding to solve customer problems vs making ANOTHER flash or NAS vendor. ;)
John Furrier
can you elaborate on this more...not sure I see the enterprise as me too at this point; investing might be a bit too "dockerish" right now but software SaaS is a greenfield.
Christopher Kusek
Well take your docker scenario. Once Docker started to gain adoption you get things like Rocket and CoreOS, and who knows how many others will be propping up to say, "I have an idea which is already rehashed and out there! BUT MINE IS BETTER"
Christopher Kusek
I mean. It's not as though containerized applications haven't been in the market place for what... 20 years now?
Christopher Kusek
And Software SaaS is as much a green field discussion today as it was in 1999 when we had his very same discussion laying the initial groundwork for the first dotcom boom. I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm saying its not new.
Nick Howell
Leaders will emerge naturally. Yay Capitalism! I say more the merrier!
John Furrier
I think that good software that aligns with cloud model can win the "better mousetrap" game then differentiate further with scale
Christopher Kusek
@datacenterdude true story Nick and I concur. But so long as a leader wins with the customer coming out on top, rather than a least worst model. :)
John Furrier
. @cxi Scale is the new "lock in" spec - doing something unique isn't the value anymore it's scaling it - that is the new differentiation imo; winners keep moving the chains and the goal posts
Christopher Kusek
@furrier whether better mousetrap, or least worst mouse trap. I mean look at Backup today and Enterprise Mgmt suites. It's not who is best. It's who is least worst.
Nick Howell
How much effect do the big companies (NetApp, EMC, HP, IBM, etc) have on getting a BigData startup off the ground? Is there active vetting to insure a new MVP is not something that is already being done elsewhere? Curious on how gaps are presented...
pete sonsini
we safely assume that the big dogs just can't respond fast enough these days. So long as the trend is very contemporary we don't worry much about them. They are just too stuck in the mud to respond.
Aaron Jacobson
In most exciting storage markets today, big vendors are held back by cash cow legacy products. They may have a competing product for a new use case, but have a limited ability to put sales, marketing, and engineering $ behind it.
John Furrier
. @datacenterdude don't mess with the federation... they have lots of muscle in the market and lots of synergies to do M&A fast and well
Nick Howell
That's a common perception. It's also on us to market our solutions better. There are certainly times when we have existing solutions that are comparable/similar, but no one is excited about them yet.
Nick Howell
@aaronej Nailed it. The productization of something can take longer than spinning up a comparable new MVP.
Dave Vellante
@psonsini How about vmware finally waking up in storage - how does that affect for example a Tintri who started when vmware storage was totally broken? - is there still plenty of white space
Nick Howell
@dvellante Execs wholesale bailing out at Tintri says something. I'm not sure what, but they either figured out how to do something better, or lost faith in the product(s).
Nick Howell
@dvellante Can you define "VMware waking up in storage?" Is this a VSAN reference or are you specifically referring to architecture changes like policies and VVols?
pete sonsini
execs who have been with companies for a long time often need a change for personal reasons; happens all the time, just look around
John Furrier
Question for all the VCs here: What is the # of boards you sit on? When does it become a diminishing return sitting on boards
Ariana Gradow
What blogs/columns do you read to stay up to date?
Nick Howell
With @nebula going under last week, what's your temperature on OpenStack, and the various distro's offered? Are companies going to be able to monetize it properly/enough to support a business built around the development, implementation, and support of it?
John Furrier
I have my opinion but want to hear investors. My guess is there isn't much investing in openstack ecosystem or is there? this is good question
Dave Vellante
not a lot of $ changing hands in #openstack right now - seeding the developer base - goodness but not profitable yet imho
Aaron Jacobson
We've historically avoided #openstack deals. Many vendors with unclear business models vying for small $ software revenues. Services like @MirantisIT likely to be the winners here.
Niki Acosta
Don't forget about Metacloud, now part of Cisco. ;) Private Coud aaS #shamelss plug
John Furrier
@aaronej I had a great chat with @RyanFloyd he is anti AWS and pro Openstack; be great to bring this question to him
Dave Vellante
Hey @psonsini thanks for doing this crowdchat - I saw Andreesen tweeted out the other day that raising $ is harder than securing customers or hiring new employees. Do you agree and can you elaborate either way...thx
pete sonsini
i would have thought the opposite in this climate. Raising $ will get harder soon.
John Furrier
Ok real time question: Please comment on the @informatica deal - they are going private in $5.3 Billion Leveraged Buyout #LBO #privateequity
Dave Vellante
another whale/tuna goes private - BMC, Dell, Informatica...life is good on the non-public side?
pete sonsini
another sign of an old legacy company that can't respond fast enough to new web, cloud world. trend will continue
Aaron Jacobson
A lot of market cap just opened up for @NEAVC portfolio company @Mulesoft
Dave Vellante
another thought on informatica - co's like Dell and Informatica w/viable strategies that need patient capital should run like the wind fm public markets. We've seen this work before (e.g. seagate)
pete sonsini
big distinction between legacy companies that can't respond to new web cloud world and need to go private to take cover vs new web cloud companies that are riding these waves and should go public
Paul Gillin
@psonsini Are you saying that going private is evidence of failure?