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On the topic of skill gaps, what do u look 4 when u want 2 hire someone that u think can learn OpenStack ops?
Cheyenne Bryant
The ability to be agile and learn. Python and networking are big plusses.

Kenneth Hui @rubrikInc HQ
How important are DevOps experience?

Tim Bell
At CERN, we're generally looking for Linux/Windows admins with an open source community approach. We find people learn very quickly once they get involved in the community.

Scott Carlson
high quality troubleshooting skill, the ability to think, the ability to read/interpret other people's code.
Cheyenne Bryant
DevOps experience is important for the troubleshooting aspect, but in general it's more important to find someone with a willingness and ability to learn without falling behind.

Kenneth Hui @rubrikInc HQ
@noggin143 Can u elaborate on OSS community approach?

Sean Winn
I look for people with problem solving skills and critical thinking skills who can admit to not knowing. Not having the answer and admitting to it is hard.

cloud foreign
all of our code is open source. We require that our engineers contribute code with that in mind. We accept pull requests from outside the org and curate our releases.
Danny Abukalam
There's still a massive gap with people who just aren't used to working in the open and capitalizing on the open source community resources available because they come from a closed source background.

Kenneth Hui @rubrikInc HQ
@craig_tracey Does this mean OpenStack operators have 2 be able 2 write code?

David Pollack
@Dannyabukalam What's best way to bridge gap?

Tim Bell
we've found the OpenStack summits help people to understand community. Sitting in an ops design summit session is a great way to start to understand the benefits of sharing.

John Furrier
DevOps is an engineering position not just coder; top exec & geeks I speak with say ability to engineer is key and coding is requirement in some cases or at least some basic coding capability

Scott Carlson
Yes, but not necessarily python code. scripts/html/bash/perl/python all counts because automation is key

Kenneth Hui @rubrikInc HQ
@noggin143 Yes but I wonder if @craig_tracey is implying that 2 be a proficient OpenStack operator u have 2 be able 2 code?
Danny Abukalam
@DavidMPollack It's a different way of thinking. I don't think it's something that will happen overnight. It's not just individuals but also entire organisations that have this way of thinking.

Sean Winn
To become a better operator, I've been learning to code. I've operated Infra for 20+ years thinking I could avoid it. I can't.

cloud foreign
absolutely not. We have a spectrum of "coders" and "operators"...we do expect that our operators can work with configuration management.

Tim Bell
From our experience, python experience is not needed to run a cloud. Understanding logs and googling tracebacks is needed.

David Pollack
@dannyabukalam Vendor marketing and product management has its work cut out for them. No time to waste.

Sean Winn
@colinmcnamara has a great talk on contributing as an operator - https://www.youtube....

Contributing Back As an Operator
Contributing Back as an Operator features Colin McNamara of Nexus IS, Inc. OpenStack needs more operators contributing back. Learn about the challenges, and ...
Contributing Back as an Operator features Colin McNamara of Nexus IS, Inc. OpenStack needs more operators contributing back. Learn about the challenges, and ...

Ashok Bhojwani
This should be a 3 fold approach. Prepare for the Cloud admins, Get the right Use Cases for the Business, Get the right set of developers who can code for 3rd Platform apps.