Webscalestorage

Linear scalability, scale-out, shared-nothing architecture... among others.

Scale-out capacity, scale-out performance, scale capacity and performance independently, buy-as-you-grow

Is this exactly analogous to the growth in server virtualization?

Excellent APIs for automation

How big can we scale?

I would have to imagine that virtualization along with SDN is the cornerstone of #webscalestorage

Software is key, hardware is commodity and always in-flux. Capacity of flash changes as flash prices decrease in cost.

easy growth. My storage says, "hey you are about to outgrow what you have" and all I do is plug another system in. be it all flash, combo flash sata or some deep storage where I can bury the user's data

@plankers are you implementing #webscale #storage right now?

Unfortunately not.

@danablouin but virtualization isn't the only use for web scale storage

@danablouin Absolutely agree. @cohodata is doing some pretty amazing innovations around SDN. Without it, the system would function very differently.

we think the attributes are having software be the intelligence with hardware delivering it. Key is the storage growth is done transparently as @KoolioKev mentioned without requiring a large amount of planing, budgeting etc.

Server virtualization let infrastructure admins spend a lot less time thinking about their servers. Web scale storage needs to do a similar thing.

Yes, you should be able to grow your storage alongside your servers. Virtualization allows for gradual scaling of hosts in a cluster, we want to do the same to your storage shelves

@KoolioKev Very true, we see a lot of very positive benchmark results for database workloads as well. It's only just the beginning for what the platform is capable of!

@KoolioKev do tell!

@cohodata So you will make it so cheap for us that budgets aren't a problem? ;-) To me budgeting and planning will always be there. I just need the ease of growth and performance.

@KoolioKev Well, I am an #IoT guy, when used right it generates a ton of data, I would love to see #WebScale #Storage implemented here, it could potentially address some issues I see.

#webscalestorage means decoupling data from physical hardware. Storage system should live longer than it's component parts.

@KoolioKev we are hoping the planning isn't 3-5 years out but more of a year plan. So you can grow on demand :)

@KoolioKev Best part about buy as you grow... Larger capacities of flash will be available at the same or less cost in the future, without need to buy the capacity or performance all at once

@danablouin we have tons of data that isn't virtualized. We need that data to grow with us as well. Also we are a development company and have need to interact with hardware to get the best application design we can for customers.

@danablouin We have IoT customers, it's a great use case for #webscalestorage.

@KoolioKev when you dont have to pay for 3 to 5 years of gear upfront, it does become less of a budgeting hassle

@andywarfield Telemetry-style data has variable growth month to month, needs both cheap archive and high-perf access to recent ingest.

@andywarfield from my research I think it must be a great fit.

@danablouin for me web scale is here for virtualization. One of the reasons we choose Coho to implement for our VMware backend.

I think @KoolioKev can answer that best :)

#webscalestorage is a funny term: the name suggests storage deployed at the scale of at least tens of thousands of nodes.

But to us at Coho, it's really around borrowing and packaging techniques from these large-scale systems to let enterprise customers create much more dynamic and flexible environments.

I think ease of management, orchestration and automation are key ingredients, especially when considering that massive 10,000 node scale!

@vsamurai_com 10,000 nodes wow! how many storage implementations are that large?

The very largest of organizations, for example. It's something we can foresee in the not too distant future. Not necessarily all nodes in 1 location, mind you.

Storage users don't want the monolithic brick that has to replaced wholesale every few years. Operational and capital agility is key

Massive scale out is interesting but the ability to bring web scale features to smaller environments is key, too.

@plankers you are bringing up a key point .... webscale storage lets you start with small env's and grow based on your needs

For me it is the ability to add the storage I need and it be available without jumping through hoops.

SDN is really changing the face of networking and having an impact across multiple industries, would #webscalestorage be viable without it?

To me, webscale = ability to scale up or down in a very dynamic fashion, much like AWS, for example...

to me webscale storage refers to the ability to provision storage to your apps as your needs grow. simplicity, flexibility and removing the need for forklift upgrades are a must

At Coho we feel #webscalestorage is about delivering storage thats easy to use, requires very little management and scales on demand. Key is no fork lift upgrades and no planning

Thanks. @KoolioKev any particular challenges right now?

@danablouin SDN is a key ingredient to webscalestorage

For us we had storage devices all over the place. A pool here and a pool there. Managing it was a headache. (Aggregate, Volume, NFS/iSCSI)

@Ramanacoho What piece of the puzzle does SDN fit for #Webscalestorage?

I think webscale is more than just scaling to massive levels. It changes with way you buy, and manage your storage.

I needed a single pool that could grow with our needs and not need a storage management degree to manage.

SDN lets you add storage intelligence in the fabric. better load balancing, ease of provisioning and deprovisioning storage nodes, failover are some of the things which become way way simpler

SDN is also about increasing the width of the connectivity into your storage. Making connectivity scale alongside capacity.

its not about implementing to 10,000 nodes but having an architecture which can let you get there