sapteched

great question!!! Its the iinsight of big data not the data in itself that provides the value of big data

Bringing in old school architectural elements, the Technology is there, but the People and Process need to drive it!

cart before the horse.. data is the new asset ..all kinds of data..that is why the #industrialinternet from #GE and #Pivotal are interesting to me - all devices connected throw off data #iot

Christoph Streubert True - but the value is what you can do with it - no the data itself

Jeff Kelly

cost implications of storing data in HDFS are low, meaning data storage is no longer a barrier to #bigdata biz case in most cases. but there are still questions around governance, high availability and security.

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Antonio F. that is the point. the reality i see in most enterprises is that they are not that good in governance, and that leads to enormous amounts of "garbage" data being stored. Is this a part of the discussion in existing big data projects?

Antonio F.

so, considering life cycle management right from the start is a critical part of considering a big data strategy, right?

Chris Ritter

the insight from the data is the key. Making technology work in concert with the data sets or a "data lake" keeps the costs down. @EMCSAP building platforms that deliver enterprise scale for analytics.

Two things are important about your question - the right architecture to facilitate federated access and the right skills/tools to gain insight

a lot of bad data really fast - is still bad data - data governance, cleansing and master data will become even more important

Antonio F. i do believe that governance, and basic IT operations management processes will be a key aspect in sustaining the business cases around big data

EMC SAP5

Running #SAP in a #VMware based cloud? How can #EMC help? What features are important? What is biggest challenge if you are not?

Sylvie Otten (Sollod

With #EMC integration to #CloudFoundry we can provide customers a complete virtualized stack as well as guide them through their #Cloud journey. Remember @vsikka shout out to Maritz during keynote.

John Furrier Question is that at the top of the stack guys (apps) need an engine that scales the #datacenter ..hmmm #mainframe throwback

Jay Cuthrell jay@cuthrell.com +1-415-763-8343

This is a great EMC white -- kudos https://community.emc.com/docs/DOC-28543

Jay Cuthrell jay@cuthrell.com +1-415-763-8343

This is a great EMC white paper -- kudos https://community.emc.com/docs/DOC-28543

Christoph Streubert8

Amit - i hear often also that #hadoop may not be in the sweetspot of knowhow for many - hoping to address big data with #SQL based solutions - do you hear that too?

amit sinha

> skills for hire and keeping track of updates is getting easier now that Hortenworks and Intel distros are OEMed alongside #HANA

Also a need for data scientists to set the governance models

Jeff Kelly

#hadoop is just part of the #bigdata equation - #SQL plays an important role, but so do NoSQL DBs, data visualization tools and end-user apps

Will you truly be able to do Federated Queries across multiple data sources?

Axel Streichardt4

Anybody interested in virtualized #Hana (vHana)? #EMC IT talked yesterday about their journey to virtualized Hana pic.twitter.com/cSk4fZz5iH . It's coming for production...soon.

amit sinha

I would love to get a pre-packaged BW on HANA on that

Agility, availability, cost management

Yes. Our existing customer bases are asking for easier deployment options for BW on HANA.

Do you find that SAP customers are asking for Virtual HANA in a context of a larger Big Data Initiative?

Axel Streichardt Absolutely.

EMC SAP

Need DT for #HANA ? Check out this paper! http://bit.ly/1bvfYXe

Christoph Streubert1

@vijayasankarv described it high level also in his blog at http://www.saphana.com/community/blogs/blog/2013/09/19/sap-hana-data-platform--avoiding-big-data-chaos-for-customers-and-developers

amit sinha16

I would say #HANA & #Hadoop, idea is to make sense and then within window of opportunity personalize it on the fly - consumer shopping, personalized health, connected car all examples of the same pattern

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where does Sybase IQ fit in?

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Christoph Streubert SYbaseIQ offers increadibly fast loading capabilities and provides a great addition to a big data design together with #HANA

Christoph Streubert imagine HOT (smaller amount of data) in HANA --> less cost. warm data (larger amount of data) in Sybase IQ

Christoph Streubert Some industries really like SYbase IQ for its very fast loading capabilities

Christoph Streubert Did you know SYbase broke another record loading data at 34.5TB per hour??? http://www.news-sap.com/sap-sybase-iq-software-smashes-previous-results-and-sets-world-record-for-fastest-loading-of-big-data/

Antonio F. my take is that cost wise, for structured data, HANA will not fit the business case. Customers I met, consider HANA for "last year" and all the rest in Sybase. The critical aspect for realtime decision making is really operational reporting

Crowd Captain

Is Hana the right engine for all big data apps?

Sylvie Otten (Sollod As of SP7 yes, #HANA will be the right engine, and SP8 there will be even more functionality and stability to solidify it as a platform. Right @putitonhana?

Christoph Streubert I dont think #HANA is the right place for any data - custoemrs want to focus their investment on the most important data

Antonio F. in the end all goes to economical decisions. If HANA is the area the company has most knowledge, and is the most easily manageable technology, then I think HANA could be it. But just as an integration engine, and holding only most recent data

Sylvie Otten (Sollod

How do you take structured & unstructured data from HANA to Hadoop and have the ability to access & query data in a federated fashion from both simultaneously?

i hear a lot of folks also wondering if the can pursue a big data strategy without #hadoop and only #SQL skills - do you hear that too?

Mmm, setting the foundation for the 'Internet of things'?

Christoph Streubert5

customers asking for larger big data solution with #HANA as a component. Hot/warm/cold data allows to focus investment on most relevant data in #HANA

I have seen that this gives clients a purpose of HANA in a larger context

Sound familiar? Can you say #EMC FAST?

amit sinha

we see BW on HANA and IQ for petabyte customers on BW, also smart data access (write and read ) into Hadoop, Teradata, Oracle

Henrik Wagner6

Huge focus from #SAP on big data at #SAPTeched. What's does it mean for existing SAP clients?

Capabilities to enable virtualization of data / query federation across #SAP and non-SAP data sources. Don't replicate it - virtualize it!

John Furrier how many people are actively virtualizing Hana?

Chris Ritter

Leveraging these technologies means an order of magnitude increase in analytic possibilities while still being fiscally responsible to the organization.

Sylvie Otten (Sollod6

Yesterday Vishal Sikka talked about transformation where Cloud & Big Data are converging - HANA will be the platform for all. Thoughts?

big data is driving change but the real story is Enterprise Cloud. The technology under the hood powers big data and future applications.

Sylvie Otten (Sollod VBLOCK's ability to scale makes federated search capabilities highly available and cost effective.

I would also say that the #SDDC movement is about redefining the #datacenter for apps not just rack n stack

Will the VCE Vblock architecture expand to handle all Big Data customer requirements for Hot, Warm and Cold data?

BMW makes one engine for multiple models types of cars..so is Hana similar or just one model #scalable ?

John Furrier6

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